I am familiar with “hoo” in your list, and “beaver” is popular in Canada. Now, if you want to get really ditch pig, you could start referencing the “beef curtains” covering the “hoo”. Now that would just be sick though…so I won’t mention it. *ahem*
Why come you no like me? I could be a ‘cunt’ two if it make u happee. Jus tell me what i got two do. I awready loss my job afta spendin awl my tyme on yo blog and den i loss my howse and ride afta givin yoor blog awl my monee and den i got 4 (lets sea how doo yoo spel it) restrayning orderrs afta gettin cawt up wit tha po po’s cuz i wus soulicitying yo pt cards and sherts all ova toun. whut mo do yoo want. I come bak two Kinkhos fo yoor reeplie layterr.
I love it. Tracy has so many fan clubs. This fan club loves to discuss Tracy-such flattery. Too bad this fan club doesn’t have any class though-such a mature, well-spoken and ethical group of people. These are some of the people raising our future. I’m so excited.
A little birdie told me that Miss Periwinkle is new to PT. Since Tracy is slacking, I’ll have to tell you myself. Miss Periwinkle, you aren’t allowed to post comments here, even comments that defend Tracy, because by acknowledging the existence of this blog you are being disloyal to Tracy. According to her, that is.
It’s been a while since I have read this thread. Thanks Miss Peritinkle for posting here. Re-reading the thread brought me some laughs. So, please come back, twist your panties in a bunch and give me some more laughs.
Now, back to the hoochie-coo talk of earlier in this thread.
My first OBGYN (Dr. Eppard) had a business partner with the name: Harry C. Beaver. I am not shitting you. He was/is and OBGYN in Northern Virginia. Needless to say, I switched OBGYN’s cus’ it was a little weird for me walking in the office and seeing Mr. Beaver’s name on the wall.
I love it. Tracy has so many fan clubs. This fan club loves to discuss Tracy-such flattery. Too bad this fan club doesn’t have any class though-such a mature, well-spoken and ethical group of people. These are some of the people raising our future. I’m so excited.
Well, Miss Periwinkle, if Tracy is such the mature, well-spoken woman with ethics, why does she continue posting, without permission, a video of MINE that I politely asked her to remove from YouTube?
In fact, would a mature, ethical woman instead remove the request from the comments not once but twice? I seriously doubt it.
I already filed a complaint with YouTube but I didn’t think about her web host. Thanks for that.
The other thing is, I gave her the opportunity to remove it by asking politely. As much as I am angered over her disregard for someone’s else feelings it does show more of her motives with PT and the general atmosphere. Since I was there to film that little “treasure” I’m able to say that Charles Fortenberry and the other participants thought they were very funny. Which seems to be how most men are when they do something they probably shouldn’t. That skit had already been performed during the event and it was a last minute “What? The guys want to do something? Oh. Ok, I guess we have time” and then here came Charles and crew. That’s another reason to shake my head and state that I do NOT support Tracy and her site. I fully support making changes to Mary Kay and educating the women involved but do I support sitting around and looking for the worst possible angle (Emasculation? Seriously?) and then dragging it out ad nauseaum?
I already filed a complaint with YouTube but I didn’t think about her web host. Thanks for that.
The other thing is, I gave her the opportunity to remove it by asking politely. As much as I am angered over her disregard for someone’s feelings it does show more of her motives with PT and the general atmosphere. Since I was there to film that little “treasure” I’m able to say that Charles Fortenberry and the other participants thought they were very funny. Which seems to be how most men are when they do something they probably shouldn’t. That skit had already been performed during the event and it was a last minute “What? The guys want to do something? Oh. Ok, I guess we have time” and then here came Charles and crew. That’s another reason to shake my head and state that I do NOT support Tracy and her site. I fully support making changes to Mary Kay and educating the women involved but do I support sitting around and looking for the worst possible angle (Emasculation? Seriously?) and then dragging it out ad nauseum? I think it’s easy to see that I don’t.
(delete that first response, I was not done yet before wordpress posted on me)
Nicole, I assume you are talking of the blue wigged men dancing around? It is a funny video and does generate some laughs, but these men were just trying to support their wives. You are right, they shouldn’t be emasculated for that. Particularly in this day when there are many men who do not support their wives in what they do. These guys should be applauded for having the balls to do that in public the first place.
PS If you were not talking about that particular video, I am sure the case is the same anyway.
I don’t fully understand what happened here. How did Tracy get this video in the first place? Did you support PT at one time?
I’ve NEVER supported PT. I’ve posted exactly twice on that site and both times were requests for Tracy take the link and my video down. I’m not sure how Tracy acquired the video but unless a member of PT was standing next to me in Fayetteville in January of 2005, that is the video clip from my camera.
I forgot about this thread until today…there is some seriously fucked up funny shit here. Miss Periwinkle really did make me smirk. Yes, be very afraid – I am raising the next generation of children that will actually know a con-artist when they see one. Horrors. *eye roll*
I could go into the whole “how dare you say I am a bad Mommy” rant, but to tell you the truth, I could really give two flying shits what others think of me anymore.
I will say one thing though – I wish I could fart when I laughed. Usually, if I laugh too hard I just pee a little, but no farts. I am so jealous, Dizzy.
Duh, I am offended! You haven’t used your new tag line at all. (Some call me duh, but Tracy doesn’t call at all.) Oh, wait a minute, you don’t give a shit if I am offended or not. Brain fart on my part. (Ouch that hurts.)
And, just so you know, I refuse to buy any fuckin’ BFBF t-shirts, I will only donate to your plasma tv fund, for the KIDS!
She posted gossip in a thread about specific people by name that may or may not be true even while talking about how gossip is bad. It took her way too long to delete the thread. The damage was already done.
So I’ve heard. And that thread on the blog with the lady with the pants. Tracy left that up their for how many days?? (with the disgusting comments starting right away). Then someone starts a thread on the board asking where it went. Tracy comes in with some lameass response.
BUCK UP Tracy. You’ve been found out by MANY MANY MANY people.
*applause and standing ovation to Tracy, you’ve fucked up again*
Dear Tracy, what the hell were you thinking disrepsecting SuzyQ like that? Having cyber-sex in the chatroom with her SON. Jeez! And you make fun of MKRealist for having talked about sex in chat. Infact, isn’t that why you banned her?
I certainly do not like that kind of talk and do not participate in it. BLECH.
Maybe you outta think about what YOU do on chat with other people’s children and the mom in the room before you judge others!
That is disgusting. Who does that kind of shit? I am offended as a mom of child that they would EVER come in contact with the likes of you. If I had been that boy’s mom I’d grabbed his ear and walked away from PT and never looked back.
SuzyQ, WHY would you stay there while this happened? Is disrespecting you to THAT degree ok with you?
Did you read Miss Periwinkle’s 8-4-07 post above? Good. Glad you thought you had such a staunch supporter. And at hte time, yo uprobably did.
But when you act like a cray zee biyotch with warts who needs steel girders to hold it all in and Cabbage Patch Kids Cornsilk hair extensions jsut to go out of the house, well, your staunchest supporters will all wake up and get he hell out!
All of your followers are leaving you. Are you sleeping ok at night? Are you having nightmares? Do you feel abandoned, alone….scared? Good. Because you are a bitch. And you can’t deny others are figuring that out. “How’s the workin fer ya?”
OMG, that is PERFECT! But instead of a KING Arthur, we have a QUEEN!
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Well, but you can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
I mean, if I went ’round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away!
Shut up, will you? Shut up!
Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I’m being repressed!
Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That’s what I’m on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn’t you?
Oh my heavens you guys are so funny! I am literally laughing out loud at all of the comments on this thread.
Back on the vajayjay subject… there are 2 towns in my state that are pretty close together and so usually when you talk about one you are talking about the other, and group the names together. Guess what the names are!?!??!? Filmore and Beaver. NO LIE!
Speaking of Monty Python, did any of you see Jabberwokky (or however you spell it)? I tried to wait for it to change, but it was just beheading after beheading and so on. I watched for a really long time thinking it would change, and that perhaps that was what the funny thing about it was and that maybe, just maybe, there would be some incredibly hilarious treat at the end for those who had the stomach to get that far. But, I turned it off. Just couldn’t watch anymore. I like Flying Circus and The Meaning of Life. Jabberwokky, what I saw of it, sucked ass.
Oops, sorry, I just noticed that this is the “Dear Tracy” thread. I’m new here, so if anyone can point me to the “introduce yourself” place and where I can get an awesome pic like some of you have (I want a pic of Bebe from SouthPark but w/ blue hair – like mine).
In the “dear Tracy” spirit, here is what I have to say:
Your reputation has been marred, your integrity shredded publicly (uh, you did alot of this yourself, bitch, when you “as a joke” just about had cyber-sex w/ FS in front of his mama), and I find it hard to call you trustworthy. Seeing that your large blog has so much Jr. High drama going on, that just makes me want to get the F*** out of there. You run PT like an evil monarch from the dark ages, ruling with an iron fist. I have watched as you have banned those that will not tow your line, who stop to ask questions. All hail Tracy, or else!! “EEEEEKkkkkk”, scream her little minions as she threatens loss of privileges on a stupid blog. Little do your poor line-towers know that you are just using them all in the name of spreading truth for your own agenda: bringing down Mary Kay Inc. Now that would be an achievement for a lowly accountant, wouldn’t it? That would really get your career a-movin’ and a-shakin’. Perhaps you have grandiose delusions of being interviewed on the talk show circuit after sinking the “Pink Titanic”. You recently spoke of “your unit” in a post on PT. I was under the impression you were never in MK?? Am I wrong? Did you actually join at some point? Or are you flat out lying to noobies since a chic with a website against MK who was never even in MK doesn’t really add up??
Let’s play a little game you and me. See if you can figure out who I am. Ready, Set, Go!
Do you have any real friends or have you treated them all like shit, much like you do on your crap ass blog? Do you think anyone really gives a flying fuck about what you think about MK. In the grand scheme of the universe you are but a cling-on in the asshole of life. You are a bully and nothing more. Do you think that by intimidation and name calling you are fighting a good fight. Your hate mail Wednesday was shit, you put it up and then encouraged everyone to do your bidding so you didn’t look like the shit for brains asstard that you encouraged everyone else to be? Now that more of your blog turds are calling you on it, all of a sudden you’ve change your tune and aren’t doing it anymore. You once said it was a draw to the blog. Says a lot for your blog if you have do mindless mean spirited shit like that. You talk about psychological/emotional triggers that MK employs, did you read their handbook of mind control? In my book you are just as bad as they are with the stuff you do. Look in the mirror, I think you would see a fugly face staring back at ya. Can you really live with yourself at the end of the day?
Sickie! You DO know me! From PT! I can’t “out” myself yet because Traczilla is reading. I’ll email you when I go to my email next (I don’t check it everyday). I’ve only emailed HH and PPPJ so far (hint, hint – but don’t out me yet guys!), and that was before I ever visited here. Didn’t keep my PT name here, doesn’t fit me anymore, but I might add it on later so that as more and more people are scared away from PT they’ll know who I am.
Oh YooHoo, Tracy, know who I am yet? I hope it keeps you up at night! Of course, I don’t have to wish that on you, you’re so paranoid it’s probably already true! Happy Mole Hunting ya biotch!
Yo Diva! Tracy hacked into your account? Why on earth? What is her damage? This just makes me want to be around PT less and less and I feel ickier everyday that I still am. Eww. It makes me feel ~dirty~. Gotta go take a shower hos, wash off those PT germs.
I see that post called “I want to stay at home” or something has been up on your FRONT PAGE for a whole day and has drawn EIGHT comments.
Traffic a little slow?
Try posting content that’s a little more interesting than dinner at Wendy’s with your retired aunt. You know. The one who always snapped at you to “mind your manners” when you were a kid and spent Saturday cleaning her house with rollers in her hair – and couldn’t understand why she couldn’t get a date much less a man. Not that she would know what to do with a man if one landed in her lap.
But I digress. Let me get this man off my lap for a minute and get back to the subject.
I see that today you posted another sermon from raisinberry and it’s already drawing comments. Yep. You stick with the raisin, she’s righteous. And I bet she don’t let people see her in hair rollers, and she didn’t have trouble getting a date.
Now, how long raisin’s hanging around yo house, Tracy. Who knows?
I’d be sweatin it. ‘Cos without her stuff you could be hurtin real fast. Back to those Old Aunt link-lists. Handy? Yeah. But sexy as snow tires.
Now, where did that guy wander off to? ‘bye. . .
Frozen Tootsies – you can kiss my furry little paws.
Yes. You get the respect and admiration of your peers.
Wow….. desperate for prizes….. you’re in MK, aren’t you?
What always amused me about that line was Dukoo had just tried to kill multiple Jedis. So when Yoda said, “the dark side I sense in you” I wanted to yell at the screen “Oh really? What was your first clue?”
While there are some honest Mary Kay women out there in MLM land, there are many more that would never make it past an interview with Bill O’Reilly in the “No Spin Zone”. The sad truth is that many in leadership positions fail to give the whole picture to their units or their national area. They paint a pretty picture in their monthly newsletters but so few consultants who see it (or for that matter directors) really know the lie behind the statistics.
For example, I was perusing a national newsletter and here are some interesting things that few people in the area would even know. There was a director listed who had over 150 unit members in her unit. She was receiving recognition for this great accomplishment. However, the reason she had so many in her unit was not because she was doing so well in her business. The truth is she frontloaded many people and pushed them to directorship. Then, because there was no foundation under those directors, they eventually lost their units and she inherited their hard work for which she is now being recognized. See how the “MK spin” works?
Another example can be found in the list of the top units for the area. One of those recognized is the daughter of the NSD. As first line directors to the NSD retire, lose their units or step away, their unit members are given to the daughter. She did not have to work for these units. She is being given a nice slice of the pie and being recognized as though she did the work. Again… this is something that many people would not be aware of if they just looked on the surface.
Of course, one of the most outstanding examples of “spinning” is a list of those who are driving Cadillacs, Premier Club vehicles or Grand Achiever vehicles. If you read the name, and then, look at what they are doing in production per month, often you will see they are that they are falling short of what they need.
It takes $16 K to avoid co-pay in the Cadillac arena per month, $8,000 for Premier Club and for Grand Achievers, they must maintain $4,500 in production from their personal recruits plus themselves monthly. Essentially, once you qualify for a car, you are tied to it for two years. There is a lot of pressure with driving an MK car. More often than not, there are co-pays going on behind those fake smiles. I know…I did that for a while and it is no fun.
Perhaps the biggest lie with a reward tied to it was found on the page of the letter that talked about the Queen’s Court of Sharing. In order to be on the Court, a director must recruit 24 Seminar qualified women during the year. To be qualified, you must have the recruit do a minimum $600 order.
One of those listed on the page had many more than 24 during the year. However, what is not published is how she managed to do this. She basically signs the person up, gets them to get a loan through her bank the same day and gets the order in immediately. If they try to back out, she reminds them that they just signed loan papers and cannot back out. It is a neat and quick operation and it netted her high results.
What readers of the letter do not know is that this has to happen over and over and over in order to maintain a unit. Each month, a director has to add 10 new people to the unit to grow. Recruiting five will only maintain the unit but not grow it. It is a never ending cycle of replacing people and getting them to buy inventory. In addition, this director like many others will experience huge charge backs as they march towards the diamond bumblebee. What a price to pay for a piece of jewelry…what a hardship for the women recruited.
When it comes to “spinning” (so everything looks upbeat, positive, and solid), no one does it better than MK Directors and NSDs. They make the business sound exciting and fool proof. However, they are more like the bureau of disinformation when it comes to being downright honest.
If consultants and even other directors only knew the real stories behind all the rewards and recognitions, they might see that Mary Kay is not enriching lives but impoverishing them. As my mother so often told me, don’t believe everything you hear, see or read. This goes double for the Mary Kay world.
We have talked about the cult mentality and technique that Mary Kay sales leadership employs to draw in and convince women that the world of Mary Kay is the most wholesome and strengthening environment for women. It has been discussed that slogans designed to shut down objective thinking are repeated over and over until one repeats them to themselves.
Hiding behind the control of “positive attitude”, the faults and flaws of Mary Kay are unable to be discussed and those who attempt it are shunned. What we do not notice is a reduction of our “standing” as an independent contractor. By being inundated by the sloganeering, we become diminished in our capacity to evaluate what is really being said to us, and believed about us. A woman who tells you to “put on your big girl panties” is mindlessly repeating a slogan that was said to her, without ever evaluating what she is really saying.
Your objections, hardships, concerns and criticisms are reduced to one single thought. You are acting like a child, and you need to grow up and get a pair of whatever the women wear, who don’t complain and criticize or have concerns. Putting on your big girl panties is a vulgar and demeaning way to reduce you to nothing more than a whining baby in a diaper.
Let me ask you a question. In a professional environment, would your boss, male or female, EVER tell you that the answer to your concern that you have no leads or bookings is, “well put on your big girl panties and get to work”?
I mention this, because one of the reasons why Mary Kay is out of control in its abuse of women, is that very few women have actual success in this company. They believe (due to the positive mental attitude control tactic) that everyone ELSE does. So they adopt the sayings of all the noteworthy, stage hogs and repeat them without ever evaluating what they are really saying.
It is a combination of the lack of personal success, the “fake it till you make it” attitude, combined with mimicking those who are believed to be successful, that brings us this vast sea of mindless slogans that offer us no real help in the building of our so-called businesses.
From, “believe and achieve”, to “show up to go up”, “stars drive cars” to “if it is to be it’s up to me”, all this crafted sloganeering hides the grim reality that most of the “professional” sales force have no real leadership training, no real personal success selling this product, and no evaluation of their skills from a “National” or Corporate Sales Trainer that could have course corrected this nonsense long ago.
Masquerading as a Cosmetics giant, Mary Kay, by its own behavior, admits that it is simply a large Cosmetics Day Care for 1.1 million hobby consultants who squeal and prance over the illusion of success and cheap prizes. And “managing” that production are the Directors who believed the sloganeering and kept their mouths shut as to their lack of success, because they were certain that success was just a recruit away. They after all, had earned their Big girl panties.
I find it ironic that we women, who wouldn’t tolerate this kind of talk in a regular corporate environment, do so from OTHER WOMEN! Mary Kay as a direct seller, escapes responsibility for attending to the leadership skills or lack thereof of the 250 plus NSD’s and 14K Sales Directors. In essence, even Directors are only taught, “book sell book recruit”.
That leaves the entire consultant sales force victim to the bad behavior, deceitfulness, manipulation and ignorance of those, who are supposed to be teaching them. One look through the stories on this site will validate the fact that many NSD’s are guilty of abuses of finances, spirituality, emotions, and leadership, through the way they communicate and the little concern they show for skills development in their downline.
After all, what skill does it take to write down the numbers of a credit card, hold a meeting, or dangle a prize to get guests to come hear a new batch of sloganeering?
And Direct Seller, Mary Kay, Inc. is protected from responsibility, it seems, because we are all “independent”. How convenient.
It might be time to think of nothing else than for conviction to fall on every NSD and all of Mary Kay’s Corporate staff. A real awakening of all the abuses on so many levels that this company has tolerated and looked the other way on, to the detriment of beauty consultants, probably world wide.
I mention this because I was told, that “what you think about you bring about.” I’d sure like to see if this is true.
“She will sign Saturday morning, she gets paid Friday! This is so much fun and so easy!!!!”
Until Saturday comes, and there is no response to your calls… the email address you had for her bounces…
This is so common, it’s pathetic. We all live for new recruits. Product in your basement may be your “ATM” but recruits (team members) are your retirement income. Except that so many do not sign. The typical scenario is like this: You take your “guest” to your Mary Kay meeting on Monday night. Your director is ON that night and your guest is so excited! YOU are so excited!!! Your Director is soooooooo excited!!!! Your director calls your potential team member to schedule an interview, and suggests coffee or lunch and SHE GOES! The fact that your Director giving is her a free mascara or a limited edition product “for her time” is a factor, but still…
SHE IS IN! She is so excited again! Your director was soooooooo good and your potential team member is all but in the bag! You call her. She squeals, you squeal! All you have to do is wait until she gets paid. No biggie. You send a thank you note. Your director sends a thank you note. You are imagining all of the applause and “Atta girl’s” you will receive at the next meeting. This is great! It’s easy! This “layering thing” works! ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK! Wow.
Until Saturday comes and she has disappeared from the face of the earth.
Your calls to her are unanswered, your director’s calls to her are unanswered. The emails bounce like rubber balls. Your answering machine messages increase in urgency. You are talking to your director frequently. She asks you to give it a day or two and maybe send a note. You agree and do so.
Your new best friend and team member has bailed. You will not get a response. Trust me on this. Who knows what happens? They find PinkTruth? Talk to someone else? Have an unexpected bill? Feel pressured and then calm down and think rationally? Realize that all of the marketing information shared at the meeting, and then restated again at the “interview” sounds too good to be true?
It happens to all of us. Really. Even directors, even top directors, OVER AND OVER AND OVER. More often than not. We learn as directors not to “count” the person until the agreement has been submitted. Then we hold our breath until we determine how much inventory they will come in with.
Please understand that there is a period of time between the actual signing of the agreement and the “Inventory Talk.” When a newbie signs an agreement, she is under the impression that her total expenditure will be $100 + tax and shipping. She is not told that there is more…
As directors we are taught that we lose a star level inventory every day that goes by after an agreement has been signed before the inventory talk. We like to set up an appointment with the newbie within 24 hours of the agreement. We go through the usual spiel, using the company brochure, or we copy another visual one off the internet… and off we go.
We hit the ordering bonuses, the “freebies,” the Star Consultant program, the recognition, the full wagon scenario, the website, the business kits, etc., like our lives depend on it. They do. The more production we bring in, the bigger our checks. Most of us bought the spin from MKC that “Mary Kay does not like her directors to have other J.O.B.S.” so this IS our income.
The worst scenario is when a unit member (or a director) has a NEW POTENTIAL RECRUIT at the end of the month. It is critical they sign NOW and come in with inventory. We know bankers who can get a credit card within hours (so long as there is a cosigner, or the newbie has great credit) It is hard to avoid the desperation that oozes through the pores of the struggling director who needs just ONE star to finish a car, or do production, or get an award or whatever.
Consider this. If you come in now as a newbie… as a star… your director will talk up our color cosmetics. She will order color cosmetics for you. You will be very excited and can’t wait to show your friends. They will complain that they are a bit pricey, but what the heck, the compacts can be refilled.
Please know that this is ALL changing in the Spring, and the chances of you selling all of it is slim. DO NOT ALLOW HER TO ORDER A BUNCH OF LIPSTICKS FOR YOU. They change in December.
There is a reason that people change their minds after saying they will sign their agreements. They were smarter than we were.
This one is designed to make you feel like you didn’t work hard enough. All you have to do is get more customers. More customers means bigger business for you.
Well, no kidding! The trick is actually finding enough customers to sustain a Mary Kay “business.” And that’s not nearly as easy as some make it sound. There are many reasons why women aren’t interested in Mary Kay: market saturation, recruiting pushes, low-quality products, better available product choices, disapproval of MLM, etc.
So building a customer base can be very challenging. And when you get a good customer, you’re encouraged to recruit her, which is the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot if you’re trying to develop a retail sales base.
One Mary Kay sales director had this idea for showing women how easy it is to build up customers. She does start off on the right foot, mentioning that a customer base is important. She doesn’t tell you that large customer base will be raided as you recruit your way up the Mary Kay career ladder, but that’s a different article.
Here are Mary Kay sales directors recounting how they got their last three customers. Well that’s nice, but three doesn’t get you very far.
Successfully moving from consultantship to directorship involves a
large, strong and wide customer base. You want to build in multiple
geographic locations, all age groups. This prevents postponements in
mass numbers due to one unique situation that affects a small % of
the population (example little league games or canning tomatoes
refer to voice com training.)
Our new directors are sharing with you were they found their 3
1. My last new customer came from the internet. She called me & I
went to her home with samples and catalogs. She wanted everything
because she lost her make up bag and wanted some new and exciting
products. We’re scheduling a class with her friends.
2. Then there was the new wife Gayle of my husbands long time friend
Alan. Alan wanted my husband to tell him what I used on my face to
make it look so good so his new wife could look better. I suggested
a facial. They said she’d never agree. I called her anyway and she
bought the roll up plus $90 more plus booked a class.
3. My husband was telling the girls in his dental office about his
newer truck that he got when I sold my car because I got my Mary Kay
car. They said they all used Mary Kay because of a consultant that
used to work there. Now they can’t find her and she hasn’t contacted
them. They want me to be their consultant so I set up a lunch
date/facials with them.
1. One customer I met at a Business Women’s network meeting. Met on
a Tuesday night. That Saturday I had a double facial with her and
her daughter the following Thursday she held a class with 3 of her
friends. And booked another class with some of her colleagues.
2. At my current job I am a supervisor and have a hard time
soliciting my business, however this summer I got an intern straight
out of college who loves make up and saw my color palette and asked
me what she had to do to get it. She has already bought from looking
at my website and has booked an appointment to do a B&A for the
Model of beauty search. I am turning that into a class with some of
3. A referral. I sent the model of the beauty search e-card to all
my customers and had one who did not want to do it but forwarded it
to one of her friends she thought would be interested. That woman
called me to schedule her B&A and asked if she could bring 2
friends. That appointment is scheduled for this Wednesday coming.
I live in a new community and I have been racking my brain trying to
figure out how I can reach out to my neighbors. The problem is I
work fulltime for the builder and they have made it clear that I can
not solicit to “homeowners”.
My next door neighbor said she would host a skin care class for me
and invite some neighbors. It was Awesome.
1. My neighbor, Janet, held the class and I met 4 new local women.
Another neighbor, Ilinca, booked a class and Janet and her daughter
booked a double facial for the model beauty search.
2. At Ilinca’s class I met 3 more neighbors and booked Ilinca and
her sister in law Andreea for a B/A for the model beauty search.
Ilinca has listened to a choices CD, was interviewed and plans on
MK business this week. Andreea listened to the choices CD and was
interviewed. Two days after the interview she moved back to NYC. I
talked to her on Tuesday and put her to the “pink pillow test”. I
will follow up tonight and hopefully she will begin her MK business
3. I received a web order last night from a new customer. I am
delivering her product on Thursday night and plan to book her for
the model beauty search B/A. I planted the seed today over the phone.
**I am currently working with local builders to set up a MK table in
their most popular models. My plan is to pamper the men and women
with satin hands and offer sun screen and after sun gel. Many Local
builders are looking to offer more in the models because the market
is so SLOW! Just a thought.
1. Nursing home where I spend 2 days a week spending time with my 93
yr old grandmother-in-law. I did a facial and she does want to book
a party and earn product for free but she was going on vacation and
then kids went back to school so she is planning her class for the
first week of September.
2. Boarder books – Gal by the Name of Danielle – Checked me out when
purchasing a book to read just didn’t have a smile on her face and I
just started warm chattering with her and booked a facial with her
and when she came on Saturday she brought 4 of her friends and
family. I did there class this past Saturday at noon and I booked
one more class from that and Danielle is very interested in the
opportunity and took a packet with her and she is coming to my
meeting tonight. Very excited about that.
3. I am on the PTO at my sons school. You talk about networking man
that was the best thing I have ever done!!! I am excited to see
where that takes me and my customer base!!! I know with just talking
and passing out my LOADED LOOK book that Linda taught me about last
week I have got some orders to pick up and deliver this week and I
booked 2 classed already for the end of the month. I am sooooo
excited about the women at school. and not to mention the moms I am
going to meet!!
4. The school does a community fair about a week after school starts
and I got a table for that set up I will share the results after
1. Name from a Fair Booth- We have a fair booth every year in our
town… (keep in mind this is a name from last years fair) We had
scheduled several appt. throughout last year, but they kept
post-poning. We finally got to hold that appt. before seminar, had
an interview, she wasn’t ready at that time. Mailed her a post card
from seminar, told her wish she could be there, how much I valued
her as a customer… She called me on Wed. and told me she was ready
2. Name from Day Care- (Beth sent out a daycare script and that’s
what I have been using for this- thnx Beth) I have been going to
daycares to honor working mothers- giving them goody bags and they
give me their info. I met Farrah, she’s the director of the day
care, she entered her name, booked an appt. for her and her friends
and one for me to come back to the daycare after hours with all the
employees, she bought a velocity set for her daughter and a
foundation for her that day and another worker also booked for her/
friends, she also bought a velocity set for her daughter that day…
and will be doing her appt. next week…
3. Referral from my sister- My sister ran into a girl she went to
high school with and they got to talking and my sister told her how
I was a Future Cadillac Sales Director w/ Mary Kay (that’s what my
family calls me.. how exciting) and she said she lost her consultant
and was in dire need of another.. She called me and purchased 2 skin
care sets, and booked an appt./interview…
4. Referral from Website- She’s never tried the products before was
just interested, saw us on U-tube. Put in her zip code it referred
her to me, booked an appt. for this week. ( I love my website, it’s
1. I share the leads we receive from David’s Bridal here in our town
and one of my recent customers came from David’s Bridal — cold
calling leads. After her facial, and submitting her B&A for the
“Model of Beauty Search” she became a personal recruit!! Yeah!
2. The next two new customers came from warm chatting at a beautiful
outdoor mall, Victoria Gardens. One from the Coach store — that
turned into a double facial and she is going to recruit this
Thursday and her girlfriend booked a party and will be hosting at
least six new ladies I’ve not met.
3. The other beautiful, very sharp woman I warm chatted while I was
waiting for my husband and she was facialed and then booked a skin
1. One of my newest customers I met at a Nurses Day that I went and
spent 2 days doing Satin Hands on all the nurses at a hospital for
nurses week. I got many great customers but this newest one just did
a class for me and is doing another one for me in a few weeks. The
class was over $500 and I got 2 bookings.
2. Another girl I am facialing this Wednesday I met her on MySpace
through a mutual friend. I know that sounds crazy but I got a
myspace account because of all of the high school friends that had
accounts and we stay in touch that way. I have booked numerous
classes through myspace. 3. Another new customer I got from a facial
bag that I did at the coffee house I used to manage. The owner loves
me and I always have something Mary Kay in her coffee house.
My newest customers came from one of my consultants who quit MK. I
asked her to give me her customers, (some were mine before) and she
did! Alicia booked a party then both her daughters booked. When one
of them had her party I got 3 bookings. The last one of those three
bookings had 18 people there for a PJ party. It was over $600.00 and
I had a new consultant with me to help, but also to see how much
money she can earn .
1. my brothers girlfriend. She finally agreed to host a party that
she thought no one would come to. She had 8 guests, $370 in sales
and 3 bookings. Her Mom is considering joining
2. I inherited a few customers from my sister,Michelle, when she
quit. One has just reordered her Basic, but this week as I delivered
it to her work, said that she’d love to come over to my house and
let me help her with some color and try the new stuff! Hopefully
3. My other sister, Jennifer, lives in Nashville and takes up orders
at work. A new girl wants to try some foundation. I’m going down
this weekend and will meet her for a facial.
The bottom line? Finding 3 customers is easy. Finding enough customers on a consistent basis to build a strong, large, and stable retail customer base is next to impossible in Mary Kay.
OK, you ho, we can handle your trying to spam bomb the comments here by cutting and pasting WHOLE ENTRIES from PT. Yawn, bitch. Like, if we wanted to read her shit we’d go READ it. Hell, some of us here probably WROTE some of it.
So, does this just prove you can be trusted with the pointy scissors now?
Frozen Tootsies may have posted a comment twice. Frozen Tootsies is not trying to spam bomb the comments, but she didn’t she her comment post and so she tried it again. Sorry if there was a double posting.
Frozen Tootsies may be a rabid squirrel ho but she tries to mind her posting habits online.
It’s cool Frozen
Whenever anybody posts links, the spaminator catches it so I freed ya. Have at the stupid whorebag who can only copy other’s writings instead of commentnig on her own.
Get a brain Katherine X. Pryde/RogerBallsman/Ohme Candoit and try not to let Tracy brainwash you so much
Ya need to go play in your litter box, we’ve all moved on from the two pink fogs, don’t preach to the preachers. Most of us were there when that shit was posted on the PT turd blog. By the way, Ballsman is not creative you asstard. Now if you had called yourself Roger Fuckwitt, I might have been amused, only mildly tho. Throwing kitty litter at ya. Hell ya run with scissors, actually run with giant hedge clippers instead they are bigger and sharper. BUTTHEADS!
PC that was interesting about the disorderly conduct. Does this give her a criminal record then? I mean how petty can you really be, knocking over garbage cans and spreading the trash. It doesn’t surprise me though because she knocks over a lot of cyber trash cans and trashes everyone.
Frozen Tootsies just visited PTLies. She read the latest post. It says that Tracy got cited for disorderly conduct, comin from a bitchfest with the peeps next door, about the property line. Neighbor sez TC dumped their (neighbor’s) trash cans out and scattered that shit all over their yard. TC entered a no contest plea and the charge is now off her record – this wuz two yrs ago.
Frozen Tootsies thinks TC has anger management issues. Frozen Tootsies is a rabid squirrel and knows something about that shit.
Frozen Tootsies isn’t all impressed about the story, though. But she expects a buncha pissed off bitches with no real life to go all “ooohhh” and write a novels wortha words over on PTLies.
They really oughta save the drama for their mama. But they are probably working out important personal issues in the relative safety of an online forum, so let ‘em have at it.
Frozen Tootsies used to hang out in a tree outside the window of a shrink’s office, so she knows some of those phrases like working out personal issues. Aint they cool?
I think you created a great site with a fantastic purpose – to help people get out of MK debt and get real answers to why facials aren’t holding, the danger of skin care classes in homes you don’t know, and what to do when you send the MK stuff back. It helped me so much. For that – I can’t thank you enough. My teammates and I sent back a collective 5K to MK and we are thrilled – positively thrilled to get off the journey to nowhere.
The problem is that Pink Truth is not a safe place either. It reminds me of those skincare classes or facials I would do when I would think, ‘something isn’t quite right’ and the hair on my neck would stand up. There are a lot of people over there that jump to conclusions, and harrass new-comers. It would be nice if you had a newcomer maven to sort out who is new, and who is a troll. Then people could carry on and have fun.
It’s unfortunate that something that had such potential turned out to be so petty, mean-spirited and ugly.
I still think there are many members on Pink Truth who have great information and want to help people, but please stop the emotional manipulation and banning.
If that site is too big for you to handle please get some help with it. If you have issues with people please let them know before taking things away from them. When you treat adults like toddlers by taking things away from them these adults don’t respect you. They run the other way wondering what they have done wrong.
I wish you peace of mind in your journey toward helping women. Although Pink Truth helped me financially, I think it is as emotionally damaging to women as Mary Kay is, and I hope you can fix that. It is my sincere hope that you will read this letter with an open mind and spirit for I do truly want the best for all the people. We all believed in the 100.00 dream that cost many of us our credit, marriages, relationships, child-rearing, religious values and self-esteem. Please don’t do any more damage. Stop.
You have a vehicle that can do so much good. Use it to its full advantage.
PS You took away my ability to look at Pink Truth, and I am cool with that. I feel much better over here without worrying about anyone getting yelled at. To be honest, I went to parochial grade school and had to suffer with nuns with mood swings and I don’t need to repeat that again so this is a better fit for me.
Here a mole, there a mole, every where a mole, mole, Old Queen Fuckwitt has a farm, e-i-e-i-o, and on this farm there was a mole, e-i-e-i-o, with a copy here, a copy there, here copy, there a cut and paste e-i-e-i-o.
Signed your everlovin friend the
MOLE Bwahhahahaha!!!!!! Can you hear me cuttin and pastin’?????
Although it was fun at first, PT sucks and it is no longer fun. Remember your poll about your mole???? You never figured it out. Some investigator you are!! You banned the wrong peeps. I felt bad about that, but you needed to come down a notch or two. Now that some of your Mavens (the one’s with brains) have turned on or left you, this lowly Baroness Mole no longer has to do any mole work. Good thing, cause PT is tired, old and boring now.
*waving to TC* Figure it out YET, Miss Investigator?????
Yeah, it certainly appears that there is more than one mole… and really, does it matter? I mean, some of the stuff that gets said her gets pretty crass, and it certainly isn’t meant to be flattering… but why does it matter if someone reads PT and shares it with others?? Or is it that TC is the subject of ridicule? Honestly, I don’t see the need to go poking at physical characteristics and all, but patterns of behavior are quite another thing. Why does she care if someone reads PT and shares it?? BTW, thanks for all the molin’ I never did that, but I appreciate the info now.
I must admit, I have retired the mole in me. I can still get on at PT. I have only shared my PT name with a few peeps here. And for shits and giggles, I am not posting it yet. Want to see if Tracy can figure it out . I posted a quick “The Mole Comes Out” at my blog.
Tracy, Wanna play mole ball??? Your turn. Can you guess what my PT screen name was????
I’m sorry I said the words ovulation, discharge, breastfeeding, lesbian cat, immigrants and Teletubbies on your discussion board. I was meaning to join other discussion boards, but I made the mistake of getting comfortable at yours. I wanted to talk to my friends about this stuff, but I should have known better. Can you imagine how fun it would be to spend all day long at my computer trying to fit in with so many groups of people? I guess I’ll never know.
I was distracted from the mission when you kept rolling out those neat boards like Prayer and Support (so people could pray or quote scripture in the proper context) and then there were the Spanish boards (which probably made you nervous, but actually I behaved myself there and was honored to have been chosen by you) and then in my last days at PT you rolled out the Moms, babies, and families board (which I thought was very accommodating of you). Thanks for having the foresight not to make a Politics board. Now THAT would have been a trainwreck.
The boards were dynamic and exciting for me at one time. I thought I was growing and helping other people grow too. I thought PT was about us. That’s why all of this pot stirring is so painful for me. I’m sorry for not keeping my promise to not post here. I feel bad about telling you that I wouldn’t.
Not a Bee-liever (self-appointed water carrier of the moles)
If it helps you at ALL notabee…I made the same declaration many many times…ack. Probably most of us did. I only vowed to not post here because to argue with *these* people was pointless (like current, happy mary kay people attempting to argue on Pinktruth, yes?)…but what I discovered is that to *listen* to these people means that I am respecting them as humans and that maybe if they had gotten some respect earlier on maybe this blog never would have developed.
Not-a-Bee, some of FT’s comments seemed to be gulped up by WordPress too. Then a few hours later, there they were. Just like they’d been posted all along. And these didn’t have any URL/links in them, either.
I gotta say when you ask someone not to defend you on a certain blog, they are gonna go looking for the reasons why you need defending in the first place. ACK Mrs. we all swore sideways up, down and backwards that we wouldn’t post on the “trashies”. To hell with that let anarachy reign!!!!!
(Mrs. I moderated myself on some words I chose so as not to hurt your sensitive ears – you inspire me to be a better person)
But I will still say that The Queen is still an Asstard. Damn so much for being a better person.
It’s amazing what one will do when one has been lied to, manipulated, put in “time out” (LOL) and chastized.
Most of us just wanted to be heard. I never posted anything derogatory about Tracy on her forum/site. I didn’t openly question her.
Once I was banned, I felt my only option to have a voice was to post here since I knew that most PTers at least lurk on here (now I see many of you posting here and am shocked that so many of you saw the same picture of Tracy that I did).
Thanks duh – freedom of speach is truly a gift that I have learned to enjoy!
Fun post on the discussion board….. so far the queen hasn’t replied.
Quote from: rethinkingpink on Sep 10, 02:04 AM
Well, I wanted to give you all karma for sending your drek back, starting at the top of the page with Not-a-Bee-liever, and I got this message when I tried to send her Karma:
An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry, you can’t modify karma to this user.
So, is this about Not-a-Bee-liever? Is she not allowed to get applause or well wishing from others from some reason? Or is this about me? Is my karma button “broken” now too?
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL! I was about to say the same thing about Not a beeliver’s post.. lLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Not a Beeliver, do you know that Pinklighthouse has a Mom board too, have you been there??, if not you should go.. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLl You’ll realize TRACY copied almost everything LJ has at the Pinklighthouse. OMG LOLLLLLLLLLLL I think I peed on my pants LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! A MOM FREAKIN BOARD! She doesn’t even like babies LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
Are you freakin kidding me????? GET A GRIP!
Or maybe Not, is fun laughing at you doing stupid stuff like that because it shows HOW RIDICULOUS YOU ARE!
Yo NOT ~ 500 snorkles aint enough, can’t you friggin count, she claims to have 2600 people on the board that need water carried for. Your 2100 short. But what about all those who left like Sickie, yourself, HH, PPPJ, MRS, Apple, Miss Peri, they are all gone, but you can bet yo ass that their accounts are still active to count in the numbers.
I hope you bought em at the Bogus Discount Store and that they have holes in em. Haggie coming to the surface spittin water out of the snorkle tube, Shit I’m being chased by that freakin fugly pink shark. Hurry someone hand me the spear gun! Glub Glub Glub
I can’t stand Oriental Trading. When my kids go to birthday parties with piñatas, or goodie bags, we always come home with little animals whose paws have been sewn on backward or whose fur is inside out. And I can always count on those “prizes” being from Oriental Trading. Fuck them and their shitty quality.
Am writing from vacation quick on hubby’s tiny laptop. Oh, I love the ocean.
Just wonderin did all of you who were on PT get letters when the site switched? I first had problems signing up on PT, and signed up under 3 different email addy’s and I got a letter to each addy when the site changed.
So, she’s three short just with me quittin PT.
Also, I can’t see PT either which is groovy-fine with me. People can post here or email me if anyone left there even knows me.
PPPJ-I thought you weren’t on PT anymore-I am so confused. Did you go back? I thought you left?
I love Oriental Trading-Great when you need to get large quantities of art activities and such for a classroom of children. Plus they have so much more than they used too. I can’t stand getting the catalogs-at home and at school-gotta fix that. I just go to the website to order.
I checked into PT when I was on vacation and presto – I could get in and see the discussino board! I was able to pm a few people and check out a few posts. It was amazing. I did stir the pot though on Shay’s thread to let Shay know that I couldn’t get into PT once I started posting here. The only way I was able to get in somewhere else was because of the vacation IP.
So, now I am home, and darn I can’t see it anymore. Errors have occurred, I’m supposed to check my cookies, then a different message arrives.
I am just soooo confused. Of course, someone could have banned me on MY computer, right? Oh that’s right – I’m the only one that uses it.
Gee oh golly gee. Perhaps my Go Dog Go manual will help me figure this one out.
I thought this was the Dear Tracy thread-I guess we have some lost idiots here. They can’t read-but oh my-they can copy and post threads from PT. I believe that is what I got punished for-correct? even though I didn’t post on a blog-I was just falsely accused. Hhhhhmmmm.
Are you having fun causing more mayhem?????? I know your reading, even though you deny deny deny. Has the traffic on your blog slowed to ziltch yet? You have lost some of your biggest supporters and thats gotta hurt.
Ya know, if you are gonna ban your biggest supporters or take away their privileges, the least you could do is take those people out of the count of registered users and show the rest of PT that they are no longer members. It sucks that PTers can’t even give these people karma and stuff and they/we don’t even know why. The ones gone look like they are still members just like the rest of them. But you are oh so honest, the perfect little angel-NOT! They should put your picture in the dictionary for the word FRAUD!
Ummmm Tracy by keeping me showing up in the numbers and me not being able to log in and participate doesn’t that come under the definition of fraud??? I asked to be deleted and my name blacked out, but apparently you have me hooked up to the PT respirator keeping me alive so I show as one of the *ahem* 2600 members, I’m not a member anymore, so please please pull the plug. PULL THE PLUG, PULL THE PLUG, PULL THE PLUG, PULL THE PLUG…….
I just read the posting Lazy Gardens wrote. Please, for the love of all that is sane (oh wait….. sanity doesn’t factor into pinktruth), please, please, if the content is going to be drivel, please at least proof read them! Typos are fine, but if someone else is writing and you’re posting, it would only take a second to, I don’t know, use spell check? If your website is as widely read as you say, surely you don’t want the top article to have non-words in there, do you? Comments, typo away. Those are done by participants. But in actual articles, use spell check. I know you’re a paranoid person, so maybe you think spell check is out to get you and Microsoft cut a deal with Mary Kay to change your words. They didn’t. Trust me.
P.S. Now that I posted this here, I bet within two hours the typos are corrected. It’s happened before…….
Dear Tracy (what can I say, I’m a sharing kinda gal):
Funny…this is the only thing I can still do on PT. So, as my actions seem to be limited, and you are the only one who really needs to see this, here I go.
You are a sad, lonely, pathetic excuse for a human being. I am disgusted by your words, actions and attitude towards those who made your site so successful. Anybody who has a clue about Pink Truth knows you are not responsible for the success, because if you were, this site would be bursting with energy and LIVE bodies, as it was before you went on your paranoid rampage at the expense of anyone with an opinion.
You try to use your fraud investigation “expertise” (snort) to intimidate others. Public records are just that, wingnut…PUBLIC! You go right ahead and post my address, phone number, property taxes, garbage collection schedule, whatever you can find. In fact, come by and take pictures of my house to post on the internet, and I’ll pose on the front step for you! Yeah, I feel threatened by you, Tracy Coenen.
Trying to exist on your site is like living in an abusive relationship. You have exploited too many women on your site, and continue to do so by refusing to delete their accounts and posts for your own self promotion. Even when I enjoyed posting on PT, I questioned where the other 2000 members were, as it was obvious that they were NOT posting on a regular basis. I heard and read things on other sites (yay Duh!) that, at one time, made me feel sorry for you. I thought those people were just being nasty, until I learned that everything they said was justified, and deserved! You should feel special…it takes a special kind of dictator to turn that many people against you, just by being a manipulative cunt (I hear that is one of your favorite words).
You took karma away from me because you didn’t like the person who gave it to me. That was the final straw; I knew then that you were a heartless being with whom I wanted absolutely no association. I know that I am truly “fog-free”, have found true friendship, and learned valuable lessons. I also know you never will.
Mrs, no I’m not sure I’m blacked out. I hope…I wish…but I’m not sure. I do know my login is blocked, and when I tried another way in, I was told, “Pixie, you are banned from using this forum”. So who knows…if I were her I wouldn’t want me on there anymore lol
High Hopes-That is exactly what I have been sayinf-TRACY COENAN IS ONE BIG FAT HUGE FRAUD! She is the fraud-not the investigator-she even got in trouble for using the word investigator-HAHA! She is the fraud using all of us to FLUFF her numbers on PT and we aren’t even there. IF she doesn’t want us there and doesn’t like us anymore-she should just delete us all and move on-OR JUST START THE FUCK OVER-excuse my language…I do not like it when i start cussing like that-damnit! LMAO!
TRACY-Please delete my account all of the way-my name-ALL of my posts-EVERYTHING pertaining to my name-please-if you are the:
TRUTHFUL-HONEST-ETHICAL-INVESTIGATING-WOMAN-that you SAY that you are and you want all of your other PT recruits to believe-THEN PROVE IT TO THEM AND -JUST DO IT!
DELETE MY NAME-MY ACCOUNT-WIPE ME AWAY FROM PT PLEASE!
Please don’t wipe me from the tarnished slate of PT. I want all those newbies, and especially the new Avon and Creative Memories reps, to see all of my wonderfully helpful and sincere posts, and then wonder where the fuck I am. Perhaps someone will even as where that exceedingly kind and helpful formeravonlady is. Then, perhaps an old-timer will see that and remember what a blast I was in chat. And they will ask questions. Then, perhaps, if I am very lucky, you will give some snide-ass remark about how I must have moved on. Then, possibly, a furry mole from The People’s Republic of Duh will post about how she remembers how great I am, and that you gave me the boot for doubting and questioning you.
I should be so lucky. So please, Tracy, marchioness of my heart, don’t delete my account.
WOW! SPICEY!! Using the dreaded “c” word and everything!!! Funny thing… I can’t say that word… I just can’t… so when I come to situations that really REALLY require that kind of word… I drop the “F” at the front of it.. which is worse really because in my head I am thinking “F’ing” “youknowwhat” but somehow it makes it easier to say… FUNT! Or FIDIOT! (one of my personal traffic favorites…) FITCH! See!? Almost sounds clean… but … it isn’t.
Hmm… something about DUH’s site seems to give me a snarky form of tourettes… DAMN FIDIOT FITCH FUNTS!
pynkmyst, you are too funny! snarky tourettes is a side-effect of being here.
p-damn, that’s how I feel too. unfortunately, not many people are alert enough to ask questions. too much patter. plus there are so many posts to look through it took me about 5 months to figure out what happened to Zoe and some others like you banned in May. my bad.
Yo Windmills….just think…it took that long for YOU to catch on, and you were there a lot! It’s hopeless now. Almost no one left who cares shit about 2 months ago or even 2 weeks ago. And almost NO postings! Crap, all the gabby ones have left – willingly (hi Pixie) or not. I don’t care anymore, all newbies with no individual faces. Gotta move on. I stop by here to have a laugh sometimes. You wild people are good for a giggle. I think indifference will kill PT. Look at it now, unless another Sickie, MrsM, PPPJ, HH, etc, etc, comes along with a spark of life, it is over! booooring! yawn…..zzzzzzzzz
you still suck. have you thought about going to a psychologist? the line between reality and your online life seems to have completely melded together. they can help with that. just a suggestion.
Thank you for proving to me that you do not have the confidence nor the backbone to allow any type of true debate or discussion on your blog.
No one was being nasty or hateful on the post where I was commenting. It was simply a debate between those people who view everything MK does as evil, even standard business practices, and those who know what the REAL WORLD is like and that MK (in this instance) is NOT doing anything wrong.
I suppose that you must paint MK with such an evil brush because your PT ship is so precarious.
TRUE strength and character are shown by being able to defend your position, NOT by silencing the opposition.
Thank you for showing your true colors: paranoid, weak and lacking self-confidence.
Since SheerBlushing has been banned from PT, I write as someone else, knowing that this post won’t last long, I’ll copy it for the women of Duh.
I’ve come to realize lots of things in my year on PT. There was a major exodus/banning earlier this year that just didn’t sit quite right with me.
Lot’s of wonderful ladies have expressed a difference of opinion and Poof. Gone! I’m expecting to be banned shortly after the viewing of this letter.
Of these 3000 plus members, how many are active? Aren’t you surprised that for 3000 plus member,s only a handful of new topics are posted daily? How many of these 3000 are regular’s, how many are lurkers, how many are banned, how many have decided that they are over MK and no longer need Pinktruth and how many have multiple log-ins?
I wonder how many other wonderful ladies will be banned by the loose wingnut here for expressing their view? Shay? Pinknight?
one last parting poem:
There once was a guy named Nick
who used to make some of us sick
He fixed the PT site when he had the time
and supposedly didn’t charge TC a dime
Now, Nick liked to play halo and xbox
and some of us wondered, “is he ugly or a fox?”
because Nick was a computer genius tis true
and with TC he always seemed true-blue
So, I leave this missive with a sigh
Knowing to “Nick” I never said, “Hi,”
I could pass him on the street and never know
if he is a star trekkie or believes TC’s blow
Hi everyone! So I found the PT website today and just shuddered at all the negativity and downright bitchiness on it. Since I don’t have Outlook, I cannot send any comments. I found this site and figured I would post what I have to say to Ms. Tracy. You all say she reads this blog, so here goes.
Hello Tracy. I saw your pink truth site for the first time today. You and the women on the site have had horrific experiences, that I understand. It’s one thing to relay your experiences to the public. But when you and other members become insulting and hateful to people who asks questions, that’s just ridiculous and cold. Now instead of being an informative site about the disasters that Mary Kay can cause, your site has become just another one whose members would rather complain and relive their experiences instead of moving on. I will not be visiting your site again. And no I’m not a consultant; but I do LOVE the skin products! Oh, I can see your face getting red and your teeth clenching. But guess what? I….DON’T….CARE!!! If you want to go and give yourself a stroke because somebody actually loves Mary Kay, then by all freaking means!!! I’m sure many on here won’t mind!
AHHHHHH GEE lol. What a google search will do for you???
Yeah I was pretty rude and “heated” with little miss priss Tracy Coenen.
I regret what I wrote to her, but I did so only after being called a “stalker” three different times. Furthermore, I NEVER have….. and never will post any of her comments/emails on the open web. The point being is…….. that was originally between myself and her. However, I do regret my behavior and should have known better than to speak with those tones or words.
My hat is off to her. She is talented at what she does. I know……..I AM SUCH A STALKER lol. Even her “cult” members alluded to me being as such. Trust me!!! I have no interest in that crazy lady any more than I do catching the HIV virus lol. Yeah, I said it…..but didn’t threaten her did I?? lol
What is weird is that I really did get a “friend” request from HER on that damned facebook thing. Oh well no love lost there.
Even weirder, she banned an elderly lady from her site on the other side of town accusing her of BEING me lol. That is hysterical to me.
To everyone here, enjoy reading her diatribes (and her members) and JUST love her obsession for what it is………BS.
BTW, if you are former MK reps and you are happy? More power to you and good luck with whatever you do.
If you are an active MK rep and happy?? More power to you too.
It’s not for everyone, but then again?? If it was, the consultant would not exist would she?????????
Woops, I forgot to say…….when I called Tracy “out” with simple facts and a decent “opinion”!!!! She not only banned me………she deleted my entire thread that I started on her site saying “I don’t want to discuss this again.”
My question to her would be…….”why not just lock the thread instead of completely removing it?” The answer is so simple………SHE DID NOT WANT HER MEMBERS TO READ WHAT I POSTED!
Don’t know why I am writing you this letter here. I think of you and your site somewhere between never and only when I have a pimple on my arse. But now and then I get an email from someone who was inspired by my honest words, uplifting stories, and lighthearted sense of humor during a time in their lives when things were pretty bleak. Then I am reminded of why I went to PT in the first place: for knowledge, support, to help others, and to make friends. What I didn’t realize is I was jumping from one emotional cult to another. Think about what MK offered women: a place where just women hang (PT’s got that); a stage where women compete for attention (PT’s got that); a ban on negativity–especially to the upperclassmen and the rules of the land (PT’s got that); a forum where one can participate at any time of the day in order to uplift themselves and feed their need for attention (PT’s got that). Your site should be a way for people to break out of their pink bubble. But instead, you actually embrace their addictive personalities congratulating “regulars” who call out those who might say a few words that aren’t 110% pro-you.
Yup, some take a long time to heal from the disease known as MK. And I’m guessing a few never heal completely. But remind me… if one isn’t completely healed, that entitles her to bash anyone she sees fit? To “have at ‘em” as you often say? Cut someone else down to enable yourself to feel taller and more powerful? Yeah, no psychological degree is needed to know that is petty and just plain wrong.
Kudos to you for blocking my IP address, but not cancelling my login. See, I know you changed my password so you could find out if I attempted to login again at anytime under a different IP. I’m sure you even changed my contact email to one of yours so you’d be notified if I did try to change it. I’m not blind or ignorant to your control issues Trace. Don’t think of your flock as idiots. Especially the ones who have moved on. By their choice OR yours.
I “see” what’s going on. When I want to. And that’s only about 3-4x a year. When a friend has a post she wants me to read (probably because it repulsed her). I’ve healed. 100%. I should be congratulated for that. Instead, you find it a threat. That’s sad.
Good luck in your endeavors. I’ll see YOU around the neighborhood. Good luck with YOUR healing. From one who knows?…. trust me, it feels GREAT when it’s finished. Hope you get to experience it someday.
Well, I must have been close to the truth, because Tracy banned me from her website!
I was thankful to have found this one! I simply wanted to know how much money Tracy is making on her websites. Of course she said she wasn’t making nearly enough to maintain them. Then I asked the next obvious question…”If you are not making a dime on your website. Why would you lose money on your vendetta against Mary Kay Cosmetics?”
We all know the answer to that question….she is making big money on her blogs with this feeding frenzy she has created against Mary Kay Cosmetics. Fraud Investigator…makes me really laugh, because she is the biggest Fraud! She wants MK to disclosure all information, but she shuts me down because I asked the same of her. I wonder if she understands the word dysfunctional.
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