OK, this is it

This is the last post I’ll do on the blog war’s thread.  I’m having a hard time keeping up with what I’ve posted, and I don’t feel like going back to see.  These comments are new I think:

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« Reply #45 on: Jun 09, 08:05 PM » Quote

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Thank you PUR and others who have commented and explained about the trash blogs. I have to admit my curiosity got the better of me when I found this thread. What I saw over there was petty, hostile, childishness. (Plus a rather limited vocabulary!) I won’t go back.

I’ll stay here thank you very much!

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Quote from: ttp on Jun 09, 08:05 PM

I’ll stay here thank you very much!

This is the place to be and to stay!!!!

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Morbid curiosity got the better of me so I stuck my toe in their sandbox. Woah! My cat’s litter box is cleaner.

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« Reply #48 on: Jun 10, 07:53 AM » Quote

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(warning – rant ahead)

Ok – I have 3 kids bugging me, a DH who has to work overnight shift (ladies, don’t let your husbands grow up to be retail managers!) and 3 bracelets to get in tomorrow’s mail, so I haven’t had time to read all 4 pages.

BUT…

first – a big AMEN to what PUR said on page 1

second – I just don’t understand this whole “blog war”.

Perhaps it is because, while I like participating in online discussions, I have never been one to get “emotionally invested” with the people that I meet online. It’s simple – I look for people with common interests….be it scrapbooking, running a jewelry business, or warning people about the dangers of MLM. But I am not looking for any of them to be my new best friends. I have enough trouble maintaining/nurturing the friendships (because my life is so hectic) that I have in real life!

Can Tracy be abrasive? Yep and that’s why MKC hates PT so much. Tracy is not a “shrinking violet”. If you pi$$ her off, she’s going to let you know about it. I’m the same way. My impression of Tracy has always been that she started and maintains PT for a purpose….and it’s not because she is looking to be the next Dale Carnegie! It’s because she truly believes that MK is a corrupt company “employing” corrupt people who engage in corrupt practices to further their own interests. People who take on that “mission” are rarely the “hearts & flowers” type. That isn’t to say that there is anything wrong with that…..frankly, the “hearts & flowers” type tend to annoy me anyway

I don’t know (nor do I really care to know) both sides of the story of the people who started their own anti-PT/Tracy blogs. I’ve browsed some of those blogs and keep having one recurring thought: “And people think that those on PT are bitter! We look like a big love-fest compared to them!”

Anyway – I’m rambling so I’ll get to my point:

No – I don’t know/remember/care to backtrack and check out the I-stories of the women who started the anti-PT/Tracy blogs.

But I would bet (and I may lose that bet, but I’ll still make it ) that the MK I-stories of those women is similar to their PT I-story: they got involved with something (in this case PT) because they were looking for friendships……they got WAY too emotionally invested in the people they had just met….people that they only saw “one side” of (in this case, their internet persona) and had high expectations that these “instant friendships” would fill whatever void that they had in their life. But when their new “best friends” didn’t/couldn’t live up to their unreasonably high expectations, they felt betrayed and “lashed out”. And since, as I said, Tracy is no “shrinking violet”, she lashed back.

The problem is that, in many ways, one should approach/use PT the same way that they should have approached MK……it’s a business (and if anyone on the anti-PT blogs pick this up – this is NOT support for your accusations that Tracy if becoming a zillionaire from the shopping links). MK is a business where the idea is to make money…and if some friendships are formed in the process, that’s great. PT is a business where the idea is to expose the truth about the way a MK “business” works (or doesn’t work)….and if along the way some friendships are made – that’s great.

But in both cases, they should never be considered a substitute or on the same level as those real-life/real-world friendships. Yes – I like Tracy….but am I going to confide my deepest darkest secrets to her? Not likely . That is going to happen with someone that I have AT A MINIMUM met face-to-face .

Perhaps I am old . Perhaps it’s just that I don’t understand how you “youngins” spend so much time on internet message boards….but I think that this “blog war” is another example of what happens when people spend too much time on their internet friendships and not enough on real life.

(If I offended anyone, I apologize – rant over)

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« Reply #49 on: Jun 10, 08:14 AM » Quote

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PUR- Thanks for that post! As previously stated I don’t go in for other forums/blogs…I have read a few here and there, but don’t make a habit of it…once you assess the general demeanor and bias, there is no point in wasting the effort since missing information makes opinions irrelevant.The internet makes a way for all humanity to participate, the knowledgeable and the ignorant. And normal assessment tools like looking a person in the eye are unavailable. BUT..and here’s a big BUT…we all have time to look over what we write, re-read, assess, evaluate, and re-work every post we make. So these women who oppose PT…either pro-MK or anti-Tracy…have limited information. Their opinions come from what they know at the time. There isn’t a person among us who hasn’t said, “Wow..I didnt know that…I thought the opposite…” Limited information makes fools of us all…but that doesn’t keep us from spouting our opinions. I think your post nailed it. A doubled minded woman accomplishes nothing.

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« Reply #50 on: Jun 10, 08:40 AM » Quote

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I know what you mean, raisinberry and MommyMindi. Thank you for sharing your wise perspectives.

One of the weirdest forces at work here as far as I can tell is the perceived slight. Communicating without the benefit of seeing eye-to-eye leaves some folks disconnected enough to both: #1 view others as characters or screen names only and not as real people, and #2 make rash judgments based on limited input. Some folks get upset easily over a perceived slight or feel personally attacked in a heated debate on the issues of the day and then feel unjustly empowered to deal with it any way but directly, as if online the ethical rules of human kindness in interactions are suspended. The nice thing is that most people are good, ethical, and reasonable. Let’s focus on helping those that want and need our help and let the rest sort themselves out as they may.

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Thanks for your words of wisdom and for sharing your opinion. Great post!

TNT

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« Reply #52 on: Jun 10, 09:04 AM » Quote

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Agreed. You are right about that “slight” thing….We are all reading typed words with No infection (usually)…dry humor can be missed….sarcasm…questioning…all that. I think we all have to remember that we reading from our OWN perspective. If we get wounded by words, maybe its OUR OWN insecurity that is being hooked, not an “attack” by someone. Thats the thing I always hated about email and forums…you can’t see my captivating sense of humor. How many relationships are damaged due to imagined “slights”. Grown ups check to see if they got the right message…no?

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« Reply #53 on: Jun 10, 09:06 AM » Quote

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I think you’re pretty funny, Raisin! So your humor comes across here!!! Apparently I piss people off to no end when I try to be funny so I have a thing or two to work on over here.

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PUR and Raisin,
I love you both so maybe I have a sick sense of humor!?! I do think that when we are coming out of the fog and reality is hitting us in the face, we tend to be more fragile and sensitive. This might cause problems at times but it seems that anyone who is looking for good and not trying to stir up trouble eventually realizes that most everyone here on PT has a huge heart and wants to help. Without the humor, I don’t know if I would be surviving the whole process of leaving MK. PT is helping me to learn, heal AND laugh at myself..or I’d by crying alot! You both are strong, knowlegable, appreciated and
One more thing: what do you mean insecure…do you think I’m insecure?

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If they are bashing, they are READING.

And the more they bash, the morelikely people are to read PT just to find out how or we are.

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My only comment on this is, yes they are reading if they are bashing, but it is not the right people who are doing the bashing. These are ones with axes to grind, not the ones considering leaving MK. Most who are bashing are taking it to a personal level and in most cases have already left MK. The language and inuendo and down right filth is unacceptable. These women only talk in this manner because they are anonymous and hide behind a screen persona. One would hope that they wouldn’t talk or act like this in ‘real life’ ,I think people who know them would be shocked if they behaved this way and used this type of language or maybe not.

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HH – They’re not as anonymous as they think.

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Ain’t that the truth!

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Tracy, I’ve been lurking here since August 2006, when the site was MKSUCKS and RBD was on the big pink hot seat. I clearly remember being scared to death to comment on any of the posts for fear I would get blasted to pink kingdom come by some seriously angry folks. I got on ‘chat’ one night and almost didn’t recover! Nobody wanted to consider that I could be a SD and not be a kaybot. Just didn’t compute! (and NOW I know where the seriously mad folks went . . .)

Over the past months, due in large part to your commitment to dignity, manners, and kindness, PT has become a place where people don’t yell at, scream at, hate on, or bash one another – they discuss. The respect level on this site has grown tremendously and that is due to your influence. (and I LOVE the fact that when someone is ugly, you just send them away in a puff of smoke!)

The discussion board has become a tremendous outlet for my inner questionings. Everyone is so kind to me here and no one tries to beat me up because I have chosen not to leave the company at this point.

I don’t know what the ‘end’ of my MK story will be, but I do know that the PT chapter of it is a positive one and I thank you!

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WAIGTD – You are definitely welcome here. Heck, you can probably answer some questions about the MKC goings on that we have. Please stay and contribute.

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Wow. I missed the rest of this entire thread!! I think I said this on another thread about these other blogs. I looked. If I wasn’t curious I would never of found PT. I stopped looking when it had violent threats to Tracy. That is beyond what I am willing to overlook.
I think Tracy should take a bow because the only thing these blog owners are are Tracy wannabe’s. They couldn’t find an original thought if you gave them directions. If you read the blogs carefully, they only stand to copy and paste PT info and then talk trash, with no substance. It can be somewhat entertaining, if not downright pathetic. To each his own I guess.

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I’m so glad that we are on PT..together Hearing your story and reading your posts helps me realize there ARE others out there just like me, trying to figure out that “next chapter” as we find our way to the END!

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I am glad everyone is here! We live and learn each day. The forum grows and we get better and better. I have learned a lot about running a site like this, and as our forum grows by leaps and bounds, I find that I still have more to learn. I am proud of how far we have come!

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This site is AMAZING. I had a couple of questions about it and yes, I’ve put my feet in their territory, just as observation, and it made me sick to my stomach.

This site is mature; if I want bickering, snitching, nitpicking, tattling, and/or personal attacks, then I would venture off to my Pre-K classroom. I don’t need that in a blog that supposedly is about MK. Never have I seen such personal attacks towards a blog site owner as usage for discrediting facts concerning a company. That’s not what I want. You [as in the personal attacker] give me facts, and leave your personal attacks out of it and then maybe I’ll consider you credible.

Thank you Tracy, for being amazing! And thank you PUR and others for explaining the situation further.

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Used to be pink fresh meat but now, thanks to PT, became fully cooked!

Limited vocabulary?  I think my vocabulary is pretty extensive. 

Violent threats to Tracy?  I wish the PTer’s would come over here and explain to me what the hell they are talking about.  I’m really confused!

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  1. What What said

    I read that thread on PT and was disgusted. All the things they are saying to each other is exactly what they would accuse the ladies on the old Faith and MKRocks blogs of doing – slapping each other on the back and saying how great they are. I especially liked how Usedtobefreshpinkmeat said that if she wanted, “bickering, snitching, nitpicking, tattling and/or personal attacks I would venture off to my pre-K classroom.” Wait a minute – isn’t that exactly how the PT blog was until Tracy decided she needed to repair her image? The aggresive mob mentality on the blog kept me from participating and it obviously kept others away (hence WhatamIgonnedo’s story). I don’t think we personally attack anyone who comes here and wants to chat…unless of course they come with insults. They spent page upon page on that thread praising themselves and the Queen, when really they made themselves look like asses.

  2. Licious said

    I agree what what. Considering everything I’ve read on the board up until now, reading their latest threads makes me want to puke…or laugh… or laugh until I puke. It seems as though no matter what the origional post was it will eventually turn into a love fest. I do love it when they can’t think of a real put down they always have to pick apart the grammar and spelling.

  3. Meow Mix said

    Let them think whatever they want. To steal a famous quote from PT…”We’ll welcome you with open arms when you see the truth”.

    bitches!

  4. The Cheese Stands Alone said

    MINDI – You are one of the first people I had contact with a couple years ago when I first found the anti-MK blogs and groups. Your posts always seemed to say exactly what I was thinking and I loved the little (grins) you tucked into them. We’ve exchanged a couple e-mails and may have even spoken over the phone. PLEASE be careful! Tracy is dangerous. I didn’t just meet her and I didn’t think she was my new “best friend”. I approached her cautiously from the beginning because she was so abrasive and caustic. You’re a nice person and I’d hate for her to screw you over. If you saw some of the private messages and e-mails she’s sent people you’d be appalled.

  5. Tracy is smokin crack said

    Oh, Tracy, SHUT THE HELL UP!!! You said “They’re not as anonymous as they think.” What a sorry ass attempt at mass intimidation. Who the F*** do you think you are? You’re going DOWN girlfriend, and I for one will be happy to see it happen. You’re a criminal and you need to pay for what you’ve done and continue to do to people. Get over yourself.

  6. My Bologna Has A First Name said

    Wowwy Tracy is smokin crack
    I thought that was a little crazy she said that too. I think she likes to make the gullible ones on there believe that she is omnipotent. But she is not. She doesn’t know who we are and I bet that just burns her up inside.
    Kind of like VD… or so I’ve heard…

  7. I always throught Mindi was very sweet as well. It’s sad to me that she drank deeply of the purple Kool-Aid.

  8. PT is Smokin'........Not! said

    “They’re not as anonymous as they think.”

    OMG, sorry y’all I can’t post anymore. Tracy knows who I am!!! She’s gonna…..she’s gonna……ummm…..she’s gonna do squat.

    Is anyone actually falling for that lame attempt at intimidation? And, if she did break all the rules (not counting the laundry list of violations she’s already committed), and found out who I was; it wouldn’t make one bit of difference. Bullies don’t impress me. Sneaky two-faced bitches impress me even less.

  9. mkrules said

    I still want to know if anyone here bought a PT bracelet and can you get your money back…. lol

    Man, I think I am over the “blog war”. My pro-mk site is very respectful and on topic. I stay away from “them” and they stay away from me.

  10. Licious said

    yes I have to admit, when I read that comment I immediately went into panick mode and began sobbing uncontrollably.

  11. Licious said

    Well I was waiting for it to happen and it finally did. I just went to PT and was informed that By my request, I was banned from the board. I guess she wasn’t too pleased with my latest posts over here.

  12. PT is Smokin'........Not! said

    Do tell, Licious. Surely you didn’t disagree with something she said. *gasp*

    Did you really request to be banned? Or, is it that if you post a dissenting view, it’s assumed that you must want to be banned. LOL

  13. tracysucks said

    God, she is an IDIOT.

    These women are so pathetic — yeah, PT is sooooo mature. Umm, why don’t you ladies ask why tracy needs her private board if you are all so welcome over there in hell??? Why not make everyone a member of the secret board???

    The answer — she needs a place to whine and talk SHIT about all of you. And if you don’t believe it, then you get exactly what you deserve.

    I have seen it. I have seen her whiny little PMs and emails trashing everyone. And her language?? Please, I will say it again…

    We don’t even come close to her trash mouth.

  14. Licious said

    Disagree with Tracy? The Queen?! NEVER!!! I’m sure she had the pleasure of reading some of my posts over here. I just can’t believe after everything I’ve read here, it took so long.

  15. Licious said

    I didn’t request to be banned but I guess that’s her subtle way of saying I brought it on myself.

  16. Duped said

    Hm. Interesting. Sure, she could find out who I am easily enough. But let me tell you this, Tracy, you try and do *anything* like you have done to ME (ie. accessing personal information or the like), I will make *positive* that you are never able t do it again, to me or to anyone else.

    Your attempt at threatening or sounding God-like in your post about knowing who we are falls short.

    After working in law for over 10 years, it takes a lot more than you to make me feel paranoid.

    As for the rest of this little thread she has going on – I agree, I am growing tired of reading it. It’s just rah-rah bullshit and “they are so filthy” talk. Sure, I say it like it is here and in my actual life, but to tell you the truth, I am highly respected by not only my family, my friends but also my professional relationships with lawyers, bankers, accountants and investors. I am sure each and every woman on here is highly respected as well.

    We don’t need your approval, your comments don’t make us want to curl up and cry, and frankly, it’s just a waste of internet space.

    My 2 cents anyway.

  17. whateva said

    after melissa started exposing tracy and then tracy had to out herself she was whining all of the time about people trashing her. alot of people kept telling her if you are going to make a big production of putting your name and profession out there then you have to expect that. she never wanted to hear it. she would get pissed. she just wanted sympathy. boo hoo.

  18. SillySally said

    Bravo to Duped!!

    I think Tracy’s crown must be getting too tight for her big head………..

  19. Meow Mix said

    Tracy can whine all she wants. No one is listening. Ok, maybe we are listening, but only so we can poke fun. Because it’s what we do well. If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em! YEHAWWWWWW

    bitches

  20. Licious said

    Amen Duped. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

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