It’s not really hateful, so I’ve rechristened it “Dislike Mail”. Here is today’s:
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From someone who received a short email from a friend about Pink Truth:
I do not want your emails. I’ve been in MK for 15 years and it’s been a very positive and totally enriching experience for me and my family as a single mom. It’s just too bad that you obviously have nothing better to do than send negativity out into the universe. With all that negativity going out there you will get it back. It’s called the Law of Cause and Effect, you’re making the cause and will get the effect.
I think your intent may be to help others but there is no secret to all that you’ve written. The marketing plan isn’t a pyramid because team building is a choice. Mary Kay Ash designed this business so that if all you wanted to do is make money from sales, you definitely could. It eliminates all the problems that come from consultants and directors from money problems. Front-loading on product? You obviously don’t understand the concept of being your own retailer and providing immediate customer service to your customers. I’ve done it both ways by choice and spent too much time, energy and gas placing orders and setting up deliveries, then delivering product. When you tear apart the scripts, you’re tearing apart Mary Kay Ash’s own words of how to work in direct sales before she even created the company.
You know, Mary Kay, Inc. has no control over the few who have used this business for advancement using non-MK principles and have obviously somehow hurt or burned some people’s feelings, like yours. Neither do they have control over those like you, who trash the good that has come from this business. It’s sad that you feel so strongly a need to use your time to perpetuating this negativity. Then use this same negativity to prosper from it by selling anti-MK paraphernalia. Post this comment, won’t you? That would be being honest. Give a fair view of the whole picture. |
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With all that negativity going out there you will get it back. It’s called the Law of Cause and Effect, you’re making the cause and will get the effect.
I just hope she realizes it goes both ways (only I call it karma) with the lies and deceit by MK.  |
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We are all entitled to our opinions aren’t we.
Karma is right. Everything that is discussed here in PT…is done in a healthy way. What Tracy has done by providing this website is provide us with a place where we can discuss our issues instead of hide them. Wonderful Karma will be coming back to Tracy.
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I love how having inventory is providing good customer service.
Ok so is she saying that it’s ok to sell a new consultant $3600 in crap!!!!!
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There is still no substance backing up the “good” of the company. I need references and proof, not just whatever someone is saying. That’s what I enjoy so much about this site–all the arguments are made using outside references and facts. If someone could show me some of that from the other side, I would be more than willing to look at it, but NO ONE does.
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You can do better than that! Avon has always had their customers wait for their orders and they’re doing a fantastic business. Boring! 
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Amazing how facts = negativity in the MK world. Sad.
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15 years in Mary Kay and no pension. If you never reach NSD, let’s see how good the Company will be to you when you are ready to retire. 
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When you tear apart the scripts, you’re tearing apart Mary Kay Ash’s own words of how to work in direct sales before she even created the company.
You know, Mary Kay, Inc. has no control over the few who have used this business for advancement using non-MK principles and have obviously somehow hurt or burned some people’s feelings, like yours.
Is Mary Kay a deity now? Is she so sacred that we cannot speak ill of her?
MKI has no control over what people do, yet it can can people at the drop of a hat? I wish they would decide if they are independent contractors or “part of a team” because it seems like the hardcore MK ladies cherry pick depending on what their argument is. You’re indepedent, but you must follow these “rules” (pantyhose, etc.) |
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You know, Mary Kay, Inc. has no control over the few who have used this business for advancement using non-MK principles…
Who’s in charge then? I have been told MK can terminate anyone at anytime. But we all know they put on the blinders for Dacia’s who frontload, frontload, frontload. And dont get me started on those who sign up their dead grandmas, cats, and husbands.  |
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Mary Kay Inc. has no control???  What is the point of saying this? Has it been a while since she’s read her contract?
Sure, we are sometimes negative, but we keep each other in check. The point is that MLMs are bad news. When a critical thinker tears apart MKA’s words, it’s to expose the truth. Sometimes it’s not a good plan to accept things at face value. You have to be critical if you want to truly understand what the founder, her family, this company, and those involved at any level are really motivated by. When someone grows and changes that’s when you can tell that self-reflection is going on and a new level of understanding has been reached. On the other hand when things are stagnant and the past is good enough you can tell that they prefer status quo over self-criticism and growth. |
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I love how having inventory is providing good customer service.
Ok so is she saying that it’s ok to sell a new consultant $3600 in crap!!!!!
Here’s what i’ll be doing tonight instead of going to an mk meeting
Oh but bethannk511, she explained all that. “,,,You know, Mary Kay, Inc. has no control over the few who have used this business for advancement using non-MK principles and have obviously somehow hurt or burned some people’s feelings, like yours. Neither do they have control over those like you…”
MKC has control. They just exercise the option not to to use it. It would affect their bottom line too much. And *that*, my dear, would be negative.
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Was that a double dog dare for Tracy to post it?
Honestly, I feel sad for this woman…15 years and most likely nothing but debt to show for it. Let’s see, I think I’ll stroll on over to check out my 401k balance….  |
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Whoops – sorry Christine – looks like we were typin away at the same time! I should read that warning that comes up! 
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From someone who received a short email from a friend about Pink Truth:
I do not want your emails. I’ve been in MK for 15 years and it’s been a very positive and totally enriching experience for me and my family as a single mom. It’s just too bad that you obviously have nothing better to do than send negativity out into the universe. With all that negativity going out there you will get it back. It’s called the Law of Cause and Effect, you’re making the cause and will get the effect. The law of cause and effect cuts in both directions. It also says that if there is an effect in your life, such as lack of money, problems in your relationships, an unsatisfying job or career, or any other difficulty, you can trace that effect back to the things that you have done to cause it and that by removing the causes you can begin to remove the effects, sometimes as quickly as overnight.
Oh, my! Could it really be? I removed MK from my life. Is that why Imy life is so much brighter?
I think your intent may be to help others but there is no secret to all that you’ve written. The marketing plan isn’t a pyramid because team building is a choice. Team building, pyramid scheme, MLM. ITS ALL THE SAME STUPID!Mary Kay Ash designed this business so that if all you wanted to do is make money from sales, you definitely could. It eliminates all the problems that come from consultants and directors from money problems. Front-loading on product? You obviously don’t understand the concept of being your own retailer and providing immediate customer service to your customers. I’ve done it both ways by choice and spent too much time, energy and gas placing orders and setting up deliveries, then delivering product. When you tear apart the scripts, you’re tearing apart Mary Kay Ash’s own words of how to work in direct sales before she even created the company. She didn’t create direct sales…her scripts are the same as those she used when she worked for a different company. I wish these stupid women would quit acting like Mary Kay Ash invented sliced bread!
You know, Mary Kay, Inc. has no control over the few who have used this business for advancement using non-MK principles and have obviously somehow hurt or burned some people’s feelings, like yours. Excuse me. They can cancel your agreement with the company at any time. They DO have the control to eliminate the women who use the “business” for advancement using non-MK principles. It just would not be as financially rewarding for them to do so. Neither do they have control over those like you, who trash the good that has come from this business. It’s sad that you feel so strongly a need to use your time to perpetuating this negativity. Then use this same negativity to prosper from it by selling anti-MK paraphernalia. Post this comment, won’t you? That would be being honest. Give a fair view of the whole picture.
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I also don’t consider it hatemail when you have sent the person something and the respond. That doesn’t count. If it does, than this should count as hatemail:
Apparently telling someone that they are hurting your feelings by leaving you bad karma messages IS spam. (Scary Kay is BVSS, BTW.) So sending someone links to a website that is soliciting monetary donations is NOT spam. Sharing your feelings IS spam.
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Dizzy from the Dastardly ways of Tracy said
LOL ~ The “hate” mail was gay. The responses even gayer. Anyone notice how most of the repsonses are from peeps we never heard of? Where are all the “regulars”?
DUH, were you harassing BvSS again??? hahahaha
Did I ever tell you that when I left PT, Scary KAy took me off her friend list? How’s THAT for friendship?
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Holler! said
Last I checked, they were all gone from MySpace. Of course Tracy is still there but no one else.
Dizzy from the Dastardly ways of Tracy said
Tracy has a myspace account? LOL. Why? She has no friends!
Dizzy from the Dastardly ways of Tracy said
OK she has 2 accounts under her real name but are private. Has another one under PinkTruth and wowzers, 13 friends, all PTers. How gay.
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My Bologna Has A First Name said
She’s going to meet both her BFF AND her boyfriend on Myspace. Thats why Dizzy
Dizzy from the Dastardly ways of Tracy said
OH that’s right, her VIRTUAL BFF and BF. How quickly I forgot.
My apologies…
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My Bologna Has A First Name said
Noooooooo Dizzy…
Her REAL BFF and BF! I’m sure she is waiting for fate to bring them across her myspace account. They’ll laugh about things and talk about how they have the same interests. They’ll drink virtual drinks together and go on virtual outings. It’ll be the best, Dizzy! The best!
Duped said
Hmmm…you know who I don’t see posting on any of these threads anymore? High Hopes. She had a HUGE post count and a HUGE karma count…just curious if she got the boot?
Semi~Charmed said
Hardly any replies seem to be regulars. It appears that list of Bailed may be increasing.
MK4ME said
Maybe after virtual bff and bf, they can have virtual kids, little fraud frogs, uggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg!!!
Now that’s scary!
MK4ME said
Idea, I nominate Dizzy, how about setting up a virtual dating service and you could find TC and virtual bf and then maybe she wouldn’t have to be married to PT. You could make it like a contest where all the applicants are submitted to you -pictures and reasons why they should be her bf and then you get to pick the winner and the prize would be a virtual date with all the proceeds raised from the pink truth cards. Me could contribute $.41, Dizzy could donate your $10 (and I would just give you your cleanser) and I would do the makeover and MK gift certificate so she can look very, very pretty when she meets bf. Oh and then I would make sure I did a before and after picture and enter her into the model makeover contest with the grand prize to NY with the $500 shopping spree.
This is just plain ole b.s. (yup- bbull sh*t)
Duh said
https://somecallmeduh.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/duhs-dating-service-for-lovers/
Ok Newbies. Do some catch up reading, will ya?
MK4ME said
Gosh I should have remembered reading that, but I don’t so….shut up!
whatcha gonna do bout it?? Sue me???? What do you want, me have no $ I want to part with, hmmm…. ahhh… my beautiful 16 year old daughter, who thinks she knows everything and the rest of the world knows nothings. And she can be a bigger bitch then all of us rolled up into one on BFBF. (she has that Sybil thing going on right now) but I want her back at 18, heard they like their mom’s again when they get around 18, (She is potty trained)
Holler! said
ROFLMAO! MK4ME! Have you been drinking?
You sure are ballsy in the early morn!
Semi~Charmed said
MK4ME – LOL – my 14 year old daughther is no different, but I guess you have been there already. 🙂
Dana said
I love how now everyone pretty much realizes PT is a joke to the point people can’t even be bothered to write her hatemail. Unless someone writes them first, and the “hatemail” is more of the “leave me alone and don’t spam me!” variety!
MK4ME said
Hi Holler and gang, got a real problem with sleeping, got even worse when dh went on third shift and we have a 16, 18, 21 year old in the house. All vampires. Someone must watch the fort. Do my biz during the day and evening and well tv sucks at night and then I found you guys. I don’t visit many blogs, but BFBF is the funniest, light entertainment around. And… cudos to many of you,(being proMK) and all, several seem to like “virtual me” for who I am dispite the fact that I am not an exPTer.
Now every once in a while I get an ouch from the mk-haters but I run this like a business, sell loads of product, teach me unit members to sell, and DO NOT believe in having new consultants start recruiting right away and I DO NOT frontload. I can prove it too so nanny, nanny booboo stick your head in doodoo. So there. I am called a “goodie two shoes” even by friends and I don’t give a sh*t-that’s how I am.
Soapbox minute, I believe if people don’t try to run MK as an MLM it can work well if an area is not saturated. I agree there are many money hunger director and nsd’s that abuse people but that doesn’t mean they all do any more than saying that everyone that has been a member of PT loves her and all she does. Seriously how would expter’s feel if we assumed you were all just like TC?
So I am going to take my midol get a glass of wine and wai tto see what you comedians come up with tonight. Too bitchy to work with unit members or clients.
P.S. The reason I used Black Sheep with MK4ME for awile (not that anyone cares but I will tell you anyway) is because I like this blog and most are anti-mk as well as anti-pt but also I truely disagree with some of what directors and nsd’s do and I tell it like it is in the Mary Kay world too. I can’t help make posetive changes if I just sit back and blog about it. I might not be able to fix everyone but I can make a difference. I have earned more respect in my world because of my views and outspokenness on doing it right than lost and if someone does have a problem with me it is usually because maybe I make them look in the mirror at themselves. And….. last but not least… my job is to teach mk biz, not run a church. If I wanted to be a preacher I would have chosen that profession not try to to it within the profession I have chosen.,
Anyway to all who have made me feel welcome here, a super big “Duh” thank you and for those that don’t -who gives a SHIT anyway!!
(how’s that Dizzy, not *?)
Dizzy from the Dastardly ways of Tracy said
:::::::Standing up clapping wildly that MK4ME said SHIT::::::::::::::::::::
hahahahahahaahahahaha I got her to curse!
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The Former MKV said
OMG, Blacksheep aka MK4ME, you sure have come a long way baby! Your little potty mouth scares me AND excites me all at once. It warms my heart to hear another bitchy director who can identify bullshit in AND out of Mary Kay, and has the balls to speak it! Carry on, my friend. You’ll always be “Blacksheep” to me. Baa baa blacksheep, have you any wool?
Duh said
Just got around to reading the comments here today. I wanted to tell you guys what my 8 year old daughter said today. I asked her if she wanted to watch Sponge Bob with me (cause I love me some Sponge Bob), and she said, “Mom, I’m almost 9 now. I just don’t think he’s funny anymore. Nothing is funny to me anymore.”
MK4ME said
Ugg, Duh, it has started! It only gets worse. 13 -15 is the worst. Approaching 16 starts to improve a little, and you will just have to wait as time passes and I can keep you aprised. My son who turns 27 today and was a holly terror was easier than daughter – glad I had him first.
(I do love my little PITA though… pita + pain in the ass)
MK4ME said
Oh shucks, thanks FMKV, (blushing)!
Idea: you know how on PT they started trying to have a total for the amount of all $ in products being sent back, Duh, I think you should have a counter for how many exPT’er are here!! mawahahahah
La La La La Lo-La said
Good idea, MK4ME.