“Afterwards” is no longer

Suzy Q has deleted Afterwards.  There was so much potential there.  It’s really sad that from the get go both Suzy and Raisin decided to run it the way they did.  Having the courage of your convictions is not for the faint of heart, but trying to paint a picture of who you are instead of just being your authentic self is even harder.   I wish they could have made a go of it.

Now that it’s down, I’m sure there will be talk that I drove them from their blog.  Raisin’s already mentioned here that I’m like a Mafioso, and that I feel that people should be asking my permission to blog.   Well, if their blog was still up, you could have seen that I welcomed them on the very first post.  Anybody’s voice is welcomed. 

The problem that I see with PT and also with Afterwards is that they banned me!  No, I’m kidding.  The problem is the manipulation.  The constant whining about the “bad people”.  The inability to back up the facts about…well, ANYTHING.  They have every right to write whatever they want on their blog.  They could say the world is flat if they want, but once their opinion is out there I have the same right to disagree, refute, etc.  So am I telling them what to  blog, or are they telling me what to blog?  That’s your call.

As far as personal attacks go, I’m a little confused about this issue.  If you write a blog about your job, and you express your opinion about that job and someone disagrees with you, I don’t consider that a personal attack.   If you write about your religion on a regular basis, and then act exactly the opposite of what your religion states, be ready to defend your actions.  Am I the internet police?  No.  But the world is filled with people like me.  I ask tough questions, and I expect to get answers because that is my personality.  Some people can’t hang with me.  That’s OK.

So how is Tracy involved in this fiasco?  Well, she has apparently convinced Raisinberry and Suzy Q and I’m sure countless others that if she goes down the whole Anti-MK “movement” will go down.  This is not the case.  Tracy didn’t invent anti-MK, and I’m sure that after Pink Truth is long gone, there will be people blogging about how much they hate MK too.  The information is out there, and the majority of it has not been written by Tracy.  I mean, Raisin and Suzy both have written countless articles on the subject.  Why they believe that by protecting Tracy they are protecting their cause is a mystery. 

One other thing…

I am not and never have been on the payroll of MKC.  I don’t receive anything for the precious time I spend blogging.  Not even a free lipstick.   It’s a sad, pathetic hobby, but it’s mine. 


  1. Not a Bee-liever said

    Did SuzyQ email you and tell you that she deleted it, or are you speculating?

  2. Duh said

    Well when you click the link it says “This blog has been deleted by the owner.” I can only assume that the owner deleted it, but you know what they say about assuming things…

  3. Afterward was killed by fear and doubt…that is the one and only culprit. Pinktruth will die by the hand of it’s owner as well, an owner who is asolutely steeped in fear and doubt. Sheer will alone will may take you to where you hope to go but once you get there you realize it’s someplace you would never want to live.

    This is exactly what I had hoped that Raisin and Suzy would not succumb to….fear and doubt.

    There is an african story about lions. In order to round up the gazelle more easily the old lions who were slow and weaker would hide in the bush while the the young, fast lions chased them. As the young, strong lions herded the gazelle to the thicket the old lions would release their tremendous roar…echoing through the air the gazelle would become frightened, turn around and run away….straight into the waiting young lions and would be devoured. If they had not feared the roar and run TOWARD it, they would have survived because the older lions had nothing left but their roar…they were too weak to catch or maim the gazelles.

    This is what we need to do in life…we need to run into the roar…it’s too bad that Suzy and Raisin did not do that.

  4. Duh said

    First you insult my grammar, and now you are likening me to an old lion.

    I love you too.

  5. mkrules said

    If you want a lipstick, I’ll send you one… LOL.

    Yeah it is deleted. I’m glad, only because I get too caught up in all the blog drama sometimes and also Raisinberry’s rants were giving Suzy Q a bad name by association. I have never seen Suzy Q go off on a religious rant or blame all her problems on others.

    Maybe a healing place or blog is needed for those who were hooked on MK and didn’t leave when they became unhappy, but instead did up downward spiral and started (or kept) buying their way up. Or maybe they could just move on with life and think “Oh well, live and learn”.

    If a healing blog is started again, I hope they stay on topic and really help some of those like, in my opinion, Raisinberry, who still have not moved on with life but are still fuming at being “taken” and not owning up to their part of their mess.

  6. mkrules said

    Oops– should read “did a downward spiral”….sorry!

  7. Yeah, then I start humming my favorite Bruce Cockburn song…”wondering where the lions are…”

  8. Duh said

    Haha! You said cockburn.

  9. I KNEW you were going to say that…heathen…make fun of ME all you like but you leave my Bruce aloooooooonnnnne. You want me to go all Jackie Chan on you or what?

  10. bugsythedemongif said

    hee hee – there I am right in the middle of that deleted page announcement – world traveller.

  11. Hagzilla/bitchzilla with pms said

    Well at least it was shortlived agony. Raisin was getting all weird about hatin the world. Come on give me a break. I actually told her to get a grip. Sometimes you have to take a deep breath, let go of the crap and just move on. As for Duh being whatever, me lurves Duh, she is truly real and not plastic like Queenie. You say what you want or need to say and no one tries to pinch you for being the bad kid.

  12. One of Sixteen Vestal Virgins said

    yup duh i have a leftover dramatic berry lipstick i can send u. if yr coloring is like brit’s it’ll be fabby. i m disappointed suz and the raisin gave up the ghost so soon on their blog. hope they will try again some day

  13. Starr said

    Well, if you ask me (and you didn’t) I think closing up shop was for the best.

    Duh claims that Rainsinberry really was really the one melting down in here yesterday. However, if you read those words, they are so not like what or in the manner that Raisinberry writes. There was some well-deserved speculation that she was even drunk– well, she was drunk or drugged or something. She was clearly not in control of her mental faculties.

    How long have they been at that new blog, anyway? Has it been a week? And they already folded up shop? Yeah, it was definitely for the best as that duty was falling a bit heavy on Raisin, at least.

    Besides, I think this place is a much better place for those done with PT hugging and ready to move on with life. Afterward was just another PT clone of sorts– same shenanigans and groupthink.

    Maybe someday ole Raisin will “get” it. LOL She did allude to this didn’t she? Damn that was funny.

    Which reminds me Duh, when you called her old, I damn near died I was lauging so hard. Also- you have been quite civil in your recent attempts at discourse with her and her lackeys.

    They proved they couldn’t step up to the plate and meet you halfway, that is for sure. They haven’t reached that next plateau, that is for sure– still stuck in the twilight zone that is known as PT.

    But, hey–that’s all good for the blog drama and my entertainment- so I’m not complaining.

  14. Dizzy from the Dastardly ways of Tracy said

    Hallelujah (sp) that the blog is closed. I didn’t see the point and I agree with someone who said that Raisin was makin Suz look bad by association. I lurve me some Suz.

    ((((((((((HUGZ TO SUZ)))))))))))))

    Not sure if she’s reading around these parts, but Suz has always been Suz. Too bad she hung around the internet with crazy lady.


  15. One of Sixteen Vestal Virgins said

    julz – bring your blog back i miss it

  16. Left the Freakshow said

    Geez, I leave town for a week, decide to take a look on the blogs and find out that Suz fell on the sword … now I’ll have to sneak some time in the wee hours of the a.m. to find out what has happened … danggit! Mrs. M, you’re right … fear and doubt will take you down everytime … how sad! Later, chicas!

  17. Watching the trainwreck from the outside said

    Duh, send me your address – I’ll send you all the lipstick you can stand – no MK in the pile. Im sad to see Raisinberry and SuziQ gone too, but sadly, it was not done for the right reasons either, obviously. MrsM – Im still thinking youre the right one. LOL Duh, you are not an old lion, you are the Cheshire Cat.

    “But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
    “Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “We’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”
    “How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.
    “You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”

  18. justme4775 said

    What if she deleted that blog and started brand new. Just to throw Duh off their path??

    Just a thought…

  19. One of Sixteen Vestal Virgins said

    sounds like a conspiracy just me

  20. My Cat Came Back said

    trainwreck, duh might be your neighbor or at least spittin’ distance lolol – pretty close to same zip code I’m thinkin’ lol I’m jealous now lol

    So are you saying I could have gotten a date had I become a dating dame?
    😉 Heck, sounds like you’re getting tons of non MK lipstick. You Go Girl 8)


    Also……Starr said…..”They haven’t reached that next plateau, that is for sure– still stuck in the twilight zone that is known as PT.” Right on!! You said that so eloquently 🙂

  21. Mercedes said

    I haven’t read the whole story or any comments but I think SuzyQ should start her own blog and she can have Raisinberry or anyone submit stories via email to be posted on her blog-“guest posters” or something. It looked like it was her blog anyway.

    SuzyQ-try it again-this time as your own blog-maybe with some rules-like if you don’t want blogfights – state that in your about page or disclaimer page…

    Wassup HOOKERS! Late as usual!


    There’s my Bugsy-wassup?

  22. Dizzy from the Dastardly ways of Tracy said

    Yo Sixteen….my blog is long gone. I said what I needed to say and really got nuthin more. All too happy to post comments on DUHs blogs. Frankly, she’s a hellofalot more funny than I ever was.


  23. good decision IMO


  24. prdiva4 said

    Yo My Cat Came Back!

    ROFLMAO! Muhwahahahahahaha!

    SLUT #4

  25. gothchiq said

    Damn, looks like I missed some good stuff! That’s what I get for being so busy on the weekends!

  26. Oh the conspirarcy theories are flyin already….well if they closed up and reopened as a private blog or without telling us, the riff raff, then I say “good.” Maybe that will help them get their focus and build what they hope to build. Regardless of what ANYONE says or believes, the majority of us (if not all of us at one time or another) really wanted that blog to do well.

  27. Geez, I can’t believe what I miss when I actually have a life and play with my kids.

    I think they should have left it open and said “F*ck Off” to any and all who didn’t like it. It’s JUST a blog! They could have continued with their mission and purpose over there to help women who are post-blue-check find jobs. So what if Duh criticizes them or points out inconsistencies! It’s just HER opinion! Big deal. Aren’t we all big girls? (Before y’all rag on me for closing MKV several months ago….it was a different story. I was outed and then I had an NSD threatening to sue me. Big difference.)

    KITTY CATS!!!!

  28. eyesicle said

    “But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
    “Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “We’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”
    “How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.
    “You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”

    LOL! Great quote…who you callin’ mad? =)

  29. Dizzy from the Dastardly ways of Tracy said

    I think all you bitches are mad.


  30. Hi Duh,

    The World is Flat according to Friedman who wrote a great book with the same name.

    It’s great to stay up to date so thanks for the heads up-

  31. Starr said

    “As we rebuild our lives, let’s remember again, that doing the right thing is not always the easiest thing. Choosing to do what’s better over what’s good, has greater rewards than what is seen in the immediate. And taking advantage of people always backfires against us, because we know what we did, as the rationalizations fade away. We scar ourselves chasing short term gain.” –Rainsenberry

    Okay– I read these words on PT blog today that Raisin wrote about integrity. I just had a tough time reading her article today after what went on the last few days. Doing the right thing as she says, is not always the easiest. This rings with so much truth with regarding to her own willingness to turn a blind eye towards the TC tactics and her subsequent unwillingness to call TC on her own lack of integrity regarding PT.

    Raisin can not be blind to what is being done to folks over there and it does take integrity to stand up and speak out against it as Shay and Mrs. and others so recently did over there.

    I guess it is much easier to close one’s eyes and pretend not to see what is right in front of them. She’s back at it as before– dancing to the TC tune. Just what WILL it take before this hypocrisy ends?

  32. mkrealist said

    Starr, why does a drunk lean on a lamppost? For illumination or support?

    As long as people feel they are SUPPORTED in/by the PT environment, they will never be ENLIGHTENED, even though the source of illumination is right over their heads.

    But it will only be when they SOBER UP that they realize they don’t need the lamppost at all.

    And not one-day-at-a-time before…

  33. Starr said


    Well said.

  34. Not a Bee-liever said

    MKR, that is an amazing metaphor. Thanks for sharing 🙂

  35. I give you and A+ for that metaphor, MKR…well done.

    I like to say in regard to ANY change that for as long as a narrative is sufficient for someone they cannot ever be swayed to another way of thinking, no matter how persuasive the swayer…the moment that the narrative breaks down and they see the inadequecy of it then they begin to listen and perhaps make a change.

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