Hatemail July 25

Written By: ScrewU 

I know we voted not to do hatemail anymore but I had to post this one just to show how far Tracy is stretching her ‘hatemail’.

First thing you will notice is that this director is responding to Tracy and Pink Truth because someone went to her unitnet site guestbook and posted something.  Although I can’t say for sure what was posted, I can say with certainty that it was not hugs and kisses.  Some might find PTer’s actions of posting on guestbooks as hateful.  Thats for you to decide.

The second thing that I noticed is that Truth Not Tears calls this letter ‘offensive, abusive and shows no signs of leadership skills’.  As much as I have read this letter, I have yet to see what is offensive or abusive.  If this is TNT’s version of abusive, she needs to lock herself in her bathroom and never interact with another living being again.  I certainly hope for her sensitive soul, she never encounters Tracy’s angry side.  Then she really will know abusive and offensive.

 The last piece of the pie was TNT’s own words once again.  She claims that a real leader is willing to listen, hear other opinions and guide… not mandate how you are supposed to feel.  Does she think that Tracy Coenen exhibits those leadership qualities?  She’s kidding herself if she really thinks that. 

And without further ado, I give you the vicious tongue lashing that this Director of MK has unfurled….

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Hate Mail – July 25

« on: Jul 25, 09:12 AM »

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From a Future Executive Senior director in Mary Kay to one of our members:

Hello-I just read your message in my guestbook, and have no plans to respond to it.  I do not understand what you are trying to accomplish .  I feel very sorry for you and your co-horts.  I cannot imagine spending that much time on such negative thinking.  Mary Kay Cosmetics is THE most amazing company to represent.  Your apparent lack of success has turned you into some sort of advocate against the business and the product, which is a very sad testimony of your attitude towards life.  Any time I have failed at something, I have turned it into a positive-why not take the experience and learn, rather than wallow in the failure?  You seem to be threatened by many things the company represents- success, self confidence, change, personal growth, integrity-to name a few.

We are excited about the upcoming changes and realize that to stay competitive in the marketplace, change IS necessary.  If you care to have me send you a catalog when we get all the exciting information, I would be happy to do so.

Until then, take a break from the negativity and try to have a blessed day.

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

« Reply #1 on: Jul 25, 09:18 AM »

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I’m not responding to your message  ~ kinda seems like she did and as for sending a catalogue  Sarcastic

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

« Reply #2 on: Jul 25, 09:20 AM »

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Wow!  I’m not surprised about this message. 

HH – I was just going to say the same thing about not responding. You beat me to the  Punch

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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I must have missed something on that one but I’m with hh, I thought she wasn’t going to respond.  Roll Eyes

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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Hey, thanks for the karma somebody!  How do I get to give Karma?
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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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Yeah HH,
Great minds think alike, I was going to mention ‘sending me a catalogue’.  What kind of response is that?
Of course she is excited about the changes, that is what she is programmed to feel.  You know, these posts used to make me angry, now they just make me sad.   Cry   Penguin going to get some lunch and a much needed Diet Coke!

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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I give it a month before she is a regular poster on PT.  Brainwashing at its best.

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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If this Future Executive Senior Sales Director is claiming to “enrich women’s lives” then someone should give her a quick lesson on how to do that!  Her letter is offensive, abusive and shows no signs of leadership skills.  A leader is willing to listen, hear other opinions and guide…not mandate how you are supposed to feel.  I’m sorry to say that this attitude is rampant among Mary Kay directors.  They talk about having a blessed day but show hate in their words.  Sad, really sad.  Directors who act this way make me even more sure I don’t want to be in their “club” any longer!

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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Oh no!! you mean we’re still lazy “loosers”??????? 

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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Well! La Te Da!

Isn’t she taking the high road….Well…kind of.

We aren’t “loosers”, but we’re still negative.  I’m just wondering when having a different point of view became negative?

If an MK’r says the paint color is Taupe and I say it is Khaki..Am I being NEGATIVE???

And by the way…If you have no plans to respond to something, you should probably immediately remove your fingers from the keyboard…

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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I am so sick of MK’ers just repeating the almost scripted company vision and including things like good self-esteem and integrity.  Enough already!!  Do they even understand what they are repeating or is this just another case of “it ain’t gotta be pretty it just gotta get done”? 

Integrity–adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.

Anyone can say that they stand for integrity, but the true test is in a person or company’s actions.  I met women in my former unit whom I believe were trying to build their business through honest sales and recruiting without frontloading, but it seems, from reading through other posts that a majority of success in Mary Kay has nothing to do with integrity at all! 

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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Here is another response for her:

Dear IBC/SD/NSD

Thank you for your interest in enlightening me about the  new upcoming Mary Kay products.  While you think these are wonderful, I am NOT INTERESTED.

I have experienced your wonderful opportunity/products and disagree with each and every point you raised about how it would benefit me.  

Please visit me at www.pinktruth.com for further clarification of my position.

Sincerely,

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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Quote from: stillselling on Jul 25, 09:23 AM

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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I agree with HH and the letter she drafted. I do want to add something to it though…

MK Director, why not really speak what you feel instead of repeating what MKC wants you to say. Do you not have a mind of your own?? Oops forgot, people in the MK cult don’t think for themselves nor express their opinions. Sorry.  Cheesy

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Re: Hate Mail – July 25

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Well!  That was 192 words’ worth of “non-response”.

Wonder how many she would have used had she actually been responding?

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  1. Me said

    Good heavens, is Tracy STILL posting unwanted messages on Unitnet guestbooks? I really thought that she would have grown up and matured some in the last year. Anything to generate “hate” mail, I guess.

    Any WHY do they continue to write or somehow address the writer of these hate mails?? IT’S ON THE PRIVATE DISCUSSION BOARD, YOU MORONS!! She won’t see it!!!

    Or…….just had this thought. Perhaps the writer of the hate mail is actually one of the people who posts on PT regularly who is still a director.

    Either way, it’s stupid.

  2. Angelicadivine said

    “Her letter is offensive, abusive and shows no signs of leadership skills.”

    When I saw this post I shook my head in amazement and disgust and exited the forum.

    The director’s letter was none of the above.
    ………

    PT, on the other hand, is none of the below either.

    “A leader is willing to listen, hear other opinions and guide…not mandate how you are supposed to feel. ”

    After several months of observing the drama on PT, I finally got sick of it. I check in now and then to check the day’s topics on the main site, but hardly ever read the comments any more. The forum is incredibly boring. I find the comments of many of the regular posters to be down right stupid. I expect that from some random passers by, but I am appalled when it comes from the Mavens.

    Is it me or does anyone else think that Raisenberry should move on and apply her wonderful writing talent more productively? What a waste…tsk tsk.

  3. Dizzy from the Dastardly ways of Tracy said

    I did not find ONE single thing in this email to be “offensive, abusive and shows no signs of leadership skills”. The people over on PT seriously need to take a HUGE step away from PT and go read the comments from an outsiders perspective. If they did that, they may realize just how whiney, batty and downright rude they can be!

    Angelicadivine, I agree with you on Raisinberry. She clearly has a knack for writing. Wouldn’t those skills be better served to write something positive? I mean just how many stupid seminar stories does one have to read? I am so glad I don’t visit the PT site much anymore. Kinda freeing, dontchya think?

    BITCHES!

  4. Angelicadivine said

    Absolutely, Dizzy.

  5. PT is Smokin'........Not! said

    I agree with all of the above statements. And, I think it shows a lot of humor on the part of the FESD that she offered to send PT a catalog. 😛

  6. kitty kat said

    Any WHY do they continue to write or somehow address the writer of these hate mails?? IT’S ON THE PRIVATE DISCUSSION BOARD, YOU MORONS!! She won’t see it!!!

    I was thinking that same thing.

    *snicker*

  7. Dizzy from the Dastardly ways of Tracy said

    HAHAHA I didn’t even catch that. Good point Kitty….a PRIVATE discussion board. So what exactly IS the point?? TARDS!

    BITCHES!

  8. Licious said

    I agree with all of you ladies. Might I also point out that the last comment truly shows you that not only do these women have any lives but that they are sick with addiction to PT. Who the hell counts the words in a message especially if there are 192 of them! I mean come on, Shelly!

  9. Me said

    The numbers on the left side at the very end…..does that mean it was on page One of SIX? They went on for five more pages of nonsense? Licious, you are right–I didn’t read all of it before so had not noticed the word count. Sad…pitiful….I’m so glad I have a life……

  10. Dana said

    And seriously? I think Tracy e-mails and posts on guestbooks just to generate some hate mail so she has something to post. It’s ridiculous!

  11. Miss Periwinkle said

    I just wanted to state some facts on this. Hate Mail is posted on the mail board. Tracy did not post on this unitnet site. Someone else posted on this unitnet site responding to another post. That person just posted to go check out Pink Truth. Ok-now back to the show.

  12. Miss Periwinkle said

    I just noticed something else. Me said “I’m so glad I have a life…..”
    It looks like you do have a life-a life of obviously viewing PT often and discussing PT all the time. Things that make you go hhhhmmmmm.

  13. My Bologna Has A First Name said

    Miss Periwinkle
    I think ScrewU said when she wrote this that ‘someone’ had gone on the director’s unitnet site. She didn’t say Tracy had done it. Although Tracy has done her fair share of posting on people’s unitnet sites and spamming people with unwanted and unsolicited emails from Pink Truth. And if you weren’t the person that posted on that site, how do you know what they wrote?

    A director responding to a message in her unitnet site to Pink Truth when she was told to check it out, is not unfounded. It seems like human nature. Someone asked her to check it out. She did. And that was her opinion of what she saw. PTers are NOT the only people on the earth that get to have an opinion. And there was absolutley nothing abusive or offensive about what she said. She was nicer than PTer’s would be to her.

    As far as Me is concerned. She doesn’t comment that often. Unlike PTer’s, we seem to have a good balance here. We can check it out, comment and then go on with our daily lives. No one here needs a Duh support group like on Pink Truth. No one here has replaced an MK addiction with a Pink Truth Addiction.

    Glad you found our blog here. Hope you learn a thing or 100 about Tracy and her naughty ways. So much to see…

  14. Miss Periwinkle said

    My Bologna Has A First Name said,

    It seems I have said something wrong or you misunderstood me. The UnitNet site was not password protected. This director is on my list on my UnitNet.-like my favorites list. Of course the director is going to check out the comments on her UnitNet site. It’s her site. A potential IBC recruit had posted on the director’s site that she was unsure of starting her business. Another person posted after the potential recruit telling the potential recruit to check out pinktruth.com. There were a few other posts from another IBC and another unknown about their views. The director was responding to this post directing the potential recruit to pinktruth.com and the other post discussing Pink Truth. I didn’t say there was anything wrong with her responding to the posts on her site. I felt bad for her that it was left unprotected for almost two weeks.

    I was just stopping through and posted here. In my opinion, it looks like the addiction here is Pink Truth addiction-not on Pink Truth, but at Pink Truth. But I only read through a few threads. I need to read and study this blog more. Thanks for the welcome. I personally don’t know Tracy and I personally never will. It seems like everyone here has had encounters with her personally. Ok-enough from me-definitely didn’t mean to turn up the heat. It’s hot enough already in my area. Whew!

  15. Miss Periwinkle,

    I may have misunderstood your comment addiction here, but I get the feeling you feel we are addicted to bashing PT and Tracy. That is not the case, although it can be fun. 🙂

    The ladies here are not addicted to this blog or PT. We all have full lives that go on with or without the blogs. We are here because we have some things in common, we like one another and want to have a bit of fun. If while we are at it, we can share Tracy’s and PT’s mean attacks on those who don’t fall to her line of thinking, underhanded backstabbing ways, inconsistancies and lies with others, than great.

    There are many posters here, MKers, ex-MKers, ex-PTers and others. We get along because we don’t stab one-another in the back. We don’t hate on those who still work their MK businesses. We don’t hate on those who decided MLM’s weren’t for them. Our common denominator: we have integrity.

    We welcome you to read through the blog and take what information you find, analyze it and come to your own conclusion. We will not try to force our way of thinking on you, although we might encourage it.

    For my personal thoughts and opinions on all this, I invite you to read this post: http://nightowlmom.wordpress.com/2007/06/14/the-blog-wars/ .

    Being new to MK this year and having found PT and other blogs, I’d like you to see how PT first affected me. I get the feeling I am not the only one who feels that way after having seen what Tracy is really about.

    – Semi~Charmed

    (Duh ~ I know it’s a shameless plug to my blog. Thanks.)

  16. Miss Periwinkle said

    Thank you Semi~Charmed a.k.a. the analyzer-just kidding. I appreciate your kindness and the feedback.

    Sometimes I speak before I think. This is the case here since now I am the new “joke”. Oh well. Carry on-I’m flattered.

    My last thought/joke-When someone says “Kiss my ass”, reply with “Move your nose”. LOL

    Peace out! Buh Bye!

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